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[mmt]

I am trying to get the bell-shaped Cp vs TSR graph in my 2D simulation of the H-Darrieus vertical axis wind turbine (using a sliding mesh model). However, I am always getting an ever increase of Cp value with the increase of TSR value i.e. the more I increase the value of the angular velocity of the sliding mesh, the higher the moment coefficient gets. What am I doing wrong and how can I get the bell-shaped curve?

[Rob]

Assuming it's set up and you're monitoring the correct value with the correct axis can you check it's not just that you've not reached the peak? Pictures will help.

[mmt]

Dear sir I am trying to replicate the results of a paper, so it's unlikely that the peak will be far-off. Here's a picture that shows the paper's results, experimental results, and my result. I am trying to get the transition SST model and according to the paper, it is run at inlet velocity 10m/s:

This is what I have been doing:
I have taken a very simple mesh. I have followed the tutorial of confluence (I replicated both the transient and steady parts. This is the link:https://confluence.cornell.edu/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=333371302)
So far I have understood, to get the Cp vs TSR curve, I have to change the turbine's angular velocity here:
This is run at 176 rev/min i.e. 18.4307 rad/s. For 10m/s inlet, the TSR will be (omega*turbine Radius)/freestream Velocity=(18.4307*1.125)/10=2.30.
This way, for each TSR point, I have to run the simulation and get the average moment coefficient value(Cm):
Then, I calculated Cp=Cm*TSR. This way I calculated but always got an increasing value of Cp.
Please let me know if I am making mistakes and how I can fix this.
Thank you.

[Rob]

To confirm, the system spins anti-clockwise? Please post some contour plots.

[mmt]

Sir,
Yes, it rotates anti-clockwise. I am posting the velocity contour here:
Pressure contour:

[Rob]

Post process in Fluent and zoom in on the areas of interest. Looking at the image you have a local acceleration around the object: is the domain large enough to avoid channelling the flow through the VAWT?

[mmt]

Sir,
I have made the geometry based on the paper, so I always assume that my geometry is okay. However, the radius of the ring circles was not provided, but the mentioned it is expected to be as narrow as possible and that is what I did. Should I bring any change to the geometry?

[Rob]

If the cell size isn't too dissimilar over the sliding interface then the position isn't too critical other than to avoid artificially squashing cells near the blades. The area of interest is the domain sides as there looks to be an acceleration caused by the VAWT blocking the flow.
How did they define the blade shape in the paper?

[mmt]

Sir I'm not sure what you exactly mean by "define the blade shape". It's NACA 0015 airfoil. I am attaching the paper. I am working on rotor A as mentioned in the paper.

[Rob]

You have built the blade shape based on something, ie the paper. Is it the right shape, and have you resolved that shape (and wake) in the mesh?

[mmt]

Sir,
Yes, I have drawn the shape based on the paper. I have taken the coordinates of NACA 0015 from NASA's website and my geometry is 2D.

[Tarun mutyam Pichikala]

 

Sir, I am doing analysis on Archimedes wind turbine in ansys fluent here my problem is torque is increasing with speed of the turbine because I’m not getting the that curve in cp vs tip speed ratio graph instead of that I am getting inclined line could please help me how to overcome this problem 

 

[Rob]

Have you defined the axis correctly? 

[Tarun mutyam Pichikala]

Yes, My turbine is rotating about x axis so I gave 1 0 0 to take moment about x axis. At orgin 

[Tarun mutyam Pichikala]

I am waiting for your reply sir 

[Rob]

If you keep increasing the wind speed and don't change the rotor speed to match why wouldn't the force increase. 

As an aside, bumping a thread after 30minutes isn't going to speed up an answer. It is likely to annoy people. After a couple of days is fine, unless those days are weekend. 

[Ahmed EISSA]

dear mmt

do you find any solution for this problem ?

 

thankls in advance

[mhm.luthfi]

Hello, does anyone here get solution on this speed-torque trend issue? 

 

Thank you