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Two-way FSI: excessive thickness change

    • Farah
      Subscriber

      I'm setting up a two-way FSI simulation, but it keeps crashing due to excessive thickness change errors in ANSYS. The CFD part (Fluent) works perfectly, but the issue arises when coupling it for FSI.

      I’ve used wall properties with a density of 1000, a Young’s modulus of 2 MPa, and a Poisson’s ratio of 0.49 (these are rough estimates). Despite this, my model keeps crashing. The only time I managed to get the two-way FSI to run was when I used wall properties resembling structural steel, which isn’t physiologically appropriate for this scenario. (fluid is Blood)

      Do you have any insights or suggestions?

    • Rahul
      Ansys Employee

      Have you tried running mechanical only part with representative load to see if that works? 

      Could you please share the exact error? 

      Please try lowering the time steps and using data transfer under relaxation. 

      • Farah
        Subscriber

        yes each module independently works fine : Structural and Fluent 
        but when i couple it i recieve this error: “Element 7438 has excessive thickness change.” 
        i tried URF, global stabilization, different RMS convergence target but still fails! im super frustrated cause tried different time step but again same error occurs

    • Rahul
      Ansys Employee

      This suggests that despite your efforts so far the motion is still numerically unstable. Try even smaller time steps.

      Also, check if the QN-stabilization option helps. With this option make sure you set enough coupling iterations that the coupled step converges.

      • Farah
        Subscriber

        i activate this option in SC but same error occured! decreased my time-step to 0.0001 but recieved the error
        and idk why when i use structural steel it works just fine 
        am i missing something in dynamic mesh? 

    • Rahul
      Ansys Employee

      Okay. 
      Could you please try this solution stabilization option available in Dynamic mesh settings for the FSI boundary?

      • Farah
        Subscriber

        this option is on and when i changed it it take a little bit longer before it fails 

    • Rahul
      Ansys Employee

      Okay. Please share more details about the setup from both participants and System Coupling.

       

      • Farah
        Subscriber

        Do you want me to upload it here? I know it will be publicly displayed 

    • Rahul
      Ansys Employee

      If it is confidential data, do not share. 

      Check your BCs, and material properties. 
      The default value of the scale factor might not work. This factor will be different for different time steps or for a different case. 

      Always start with small values then increase. (Note that pressure response is a function of scale factor and Number of Fluent iterations per coupling step). So in practice, consider using a small number of Fluent iterations between each mesh update.

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