Model penetration

- February 27, 2026 at 2:00 am
  
  tut06916
  Subscriber
  
  Hello,
  I created a dome composed of many beams and made a cylinder crash the dome. When I set the initial velocity as -30, the result looks good. But if I change the velocity to -60, there will be penetration between the parts. Does anybody know how to fix it? Thanks.
  This is my .k file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gcOm7990HbWrbmrTTb4MAMjXJa-HI0xn/view?usp=sharing
- February 27, 2026 at 1:54 pm
  
  ErKo
  Ansys Employee
  
  Ansys employees are not allowed to download files. Please wait for other forum members to chime in and perhaps help.
  I would use also 1 AUTOMATIC GENERAL for all contacts (works well between beams and solids and between beams)
  
  All the best
  Erko
  - February 27, 2026 at 2:40 pm
    
    tut06916
    Subscriber
    
    I tried CONTACT_AUTOMATIC_GENERAL between beams. But it doesn't work. There still is model penetration if I make the velocity bigger. I posted my .k file. Could you please take a look. Thank you so much.
    *KEYWORD
    *CONTROL_TERMINATION
    $# endtim endcyc dtmin endeng endmas nosol
    1.5 0 0.0 0.01.000000E8 0
    *DATABASE_BINARY_D3PLOT
    $# dt lcdt beam npltc psetid
    0.05 0 0 0 0
    *NODE
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    554 -5.986837e+00 5.986837e+00 7.100000e+01 0 0
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    601 4.860079e+00 -1.173327e+01 7.100000e+01 0 0
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    606 4.490128e+00 -2.245064e+00 7.100000e+01 0 0
    607 4.490128e+00 2.245064e+00 7.100000e+01 0 0
    608 9.318890e+00 3.988408e+00 7.100000e+01 0 0
    609 -2.245064e+00 2.245064e+00 7.100000e+01 0 0
    610 1.270000e+01 0.000000e+00 7.100000e+01 0 0
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    612 7.226752e+00 0.000000e+00 7.100000e+01 0 0
    613 6.904509e+00 3.116736e+00 7.100000e+01 0 0
    614 0.000000e+00 2.245064e+00 7.100000e+01 0 0
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    619 2.245064e+00 4.490128e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
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    621 -2.245064e+00 4.490128e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
    622 -4.490128e+00 4.490128e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
    623 5.986837e+00 5.986837e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
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    626 -3.116736e+00 6.904509e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
    627 -5.986837e+00 5.986837e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
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    631 -3.988408e+00 9.318890e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
    632 -7.483547e+00 7.483547e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
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    637 -8.980256e+00 8.980256e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
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    658 4.490128e+00 -4.490128e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
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    661 -2.245064e+00 -4.490128e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
    662 -2.245064e+00 -2.245064e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
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    666 -3.116736e+00 -6.904509e+00 7.500000e+01 0 0
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    1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1
    *SET_NODE_LIST
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    1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0MECH 1
    $# nid1 nid2 nid3 nid4 nid5 nid6 nid7 nid8
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    6 1 10 12 13 0 0 0 0 0
    7 1 12 14 15 0 0 0 0 0
    8 1 14 16 17 0 0 0 0 0
    9 1 16 18 19 0 0 0 0 0
    10 1 18 20 21 0 0 0 0 0
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    12 1 22 24 25 0 0 0 0 0
    13 1 24 26 27 0 0 0 0 0
    14 1 26 28 29 0 0 0 0 0
    15 1 28 30 31 0 0 0 0 0
    16 1 30 32 33 0 0 0 0 0
    17 1 32 34 35 0 0 0 0 0
    18 1 34 36 37 0 0 0 0 0
    19 1 36 38 39 0 0 0 0 0
    20 1 38 40 41 0 0 0 0 0
    21 1 40 42 43 0 0 0 0 0
    22 1 42 44 45 0 0 0 0 0
    23 1 44 46 47 0 0 0 0 0
    24 1 46 48 49 0 0 0 0 0
    25 1 48 50 51 0 0 0 0 0
    26 1 50 52 53 0 0 0 0 0
    27 1 52 54 55 0 0 0 0 0
    28 1 54 56 57 0 0 0 0 0
    29 1 56 58 59 0 0 0 0 0
    30 1 58 60 61 0 0 0 0 0
    31 1 60 62 63 0 0 0 0 0
    32 2 64 65 66 0 0 0 0 0
    33 2 65 67 68 0 0 0 0 0
    34 2 67 69 70 0 0 0 0 0
    35 2 69 71 72 0 0 0 0 0
    36 2 71 73 74 0 0 0 0 0
    37 2 73 75 76 0 0 0 0 0
    38 2 75 77 78 0 0 0 0 0
    39 2 77 79 80 0 0 0 0 0
    40 2 79 81 82 0 0 0 0 0
    41 2 81 83 84 0 0 0 0 0
    42 2 83 85 86 0 0 0 0 0
    43 2 85 87 88 0 0 0 0 0
    44 2 87 89 90 0 0 0 0 0
    45 2 89 91 92 0 0 0 0 0
    46 2 91 93 94 0 0 0 0 0
    47 2 93 95 96 0 0 0 0 0
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    49 2 97 99 100 0 0 0 0 0
    50 2 99 101 102 0 0 0 0 0
    51 2 101 103 104 0 0 0 0 0
    52 2 103 105 106 0 0 0 0 0
    53 2 105 107 108 0 0 0 0 0
    54 2 107 109 110 0 0 0 0 0
    55 2 109 111 112 0 0 0 0 0
    56 2 111 113 114 0 0 0 0 0
    57 2 113 115 116 0 0 0 0 0
    58 2 115 117 118 0 0 0 0 0
    59 2 117 119 120 0 0 0 0 0
    60 2 119 121 122 0 0 0 0 0
    61 2 121 123 124 0 0 0 0 0
    62 2 123 125 126 0 0 0 0 0
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    73 3 146 148 149 0 0 0 0 0
    74 3 148 150 151 0 0 0 0 0
    75 3 150 152 153 0 0 0 0 0
    76 3 152 154 155 0 0 0 0 0
    77 3 154 156 157 0 0 0 0 0
    78 3 156 158 159 0 0 0 0 0
    79 3 158 160 161 0 0 0 0 0
    80 3 160 162 163 0 0 0 0 0
    81 3 162 164 165 0 0 0 0 0
    82 3 164 166 167 0 0 0 0 0
    83 3 166 168 169 0 0 0 0 0
    84 3 168 170 171 0 0 0 0 0
    85 3 170 172 173 0 0 0 0 0
    86 3 172 174 175 0 0 0 0 0
    87 3 174 176 177 0 0 0 0 0
    88 3 176 178 179 0 0 0 0 0
    89 3 178 180 181 0 0 0 0 0
    90 3 180 182 183 0 0 0 0 0
    91 3 182 184 185 0 0 0 0 0
    92 3 184 186 187 0 0 0 0 0
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    94 4 190 191 192 0 0 0 0 0
    95 4 191 193 194 0 0 0 0 0
    96 4 193 195 196 0 0 0 0 0
    97 4 195 197 198 0 0 0 0 0
    98 4 197 199 200 0 0 0 0 0
    99 4 199 201 202 0 0 0 0 0
    100 4 201 203 204 0 0 0 0 0
    101 4 203 205 206 0 0 0 0 0
    102 4 205 207 208 0 0 0 0 0
    103 4 207 209 210 0 0 0 0 0
    104 4 209 211 212 0 0 0 0 0
    105 4 211 213 214 0 0 0 0 0
    106 4 213 215 216 0 0 0 0 0
    107 4 215 217 218 0 0 0 0 0
    108 4 217 219 220 0 0 0 0 0
    109 4 219 221 222 0 0 0 0 0
    110 4 221 223 224 0 0 0 0 0
    111 4 223 225 226 0 0 0 0 0
    112 4 225 227 228 0 0 0 0 0
    113 4 227 229 230 0 0 0 0 0
    114 4 229 231 232 0 0 0 0 0
    115 4 231 233 234 0 0 0 0 0
    116 4 233 235 236 0 0 0 0 0
    117 4 235 237 238 0 0 0 0 0
    118 4 237 239 240 0 0 0 0 0
    119 4 239 241 242 0 0 0 0 0
    120 4 241 243 244 0 0 0 0 0
    121 4 243 245 246 0 0 0 0 0
    122 4 245 247 248 0 0 0 0 0
    123 4 247 249 250 0 0 0 0 0
    124 4 249 251 252 0 0 0 0 0
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    $# eid pid n1 n2 n3 n4 n5 n6 n7 n8
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    127 5 255 260 261 256 328 333 334 329
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    129 5 258 263 264 259 331 336 337 332
    130 5 259 264 265 260 332 337 338 333
    131 5 260 265 266 261 333 338 339 334
    132 5 261 266 267 262 334 339 340 335
    133 5 263 268 269 264 336 341 342 337
    134 5 264 269 270 265 337 342 343 338
    135 5 265 270 271 266 338 343 344 339
    136 5 266 271 272 267 339 344 345 340
    137 5 257 262 279 273 330 335 352 346
    138 5 273 279 280 275 346 352 353 348
    139 5 275 280 281 276 348 353 354 349
    140 5 276 281 282 277 349 354 355 350
    141 5 262 267 284 279 335 340 357 352
    142 5 279 284 285 280 352 357 358 353
    143 5 280 285 286 281 353 358 359 354
    144 5 281 286 287 282 354 359 360 355
    145 5 267 272 289 284 340 345 362 357
    146 5 284 289 290 285 357 362 363 358
    147 5 285 290 291 286 358 363 364 359
    148 5 286 291 292 287 359 364 365 360
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    150 5 295 300 299 294 368 373 372 367
    151 5 296 301 300 295 369 374 373 368
    152 5 277 282 301 296 350 355 374 369
    153 5 299 304 303 298 372 377 376 371
    154 5 300 305 304 299 373 378 377 372
    155 5 301 306 305 300 374 379 378 373
    156 5 282 287 306 301 355 360 379 374
    157 5 304 309 308 303 377 382 381 376
    158 5 305 310 309 304 378 383 382 377
    159 5 306 311 310 305 379 384 383 378
    160 5 287 292 311 306 360 365 384 379
    161 5 293 298 319 314 366 371 392 387
    162 5 314 319 320 283 387 392 393 356
    163 5 283 320 321 315 356 393 394 388
    164 5 315 321 258 253 388 394 331 326
    165 5 298 303 324 319 371 376 397 392
    166 5 319 324 325 320 392 397 398 393
    167 5 320 325 316 321 393 398 389 394
    168 5 321 316 263 258 394 389 336 331
    169 5 303 308 323 324 376 381 396 397
    170 5 324 323 318 325 397 396 391 398
    171 5 325 318 312 316 398 391 385 389
    172 5 316 312 268 263 389 385 341 336
    173 5 293 314 302 294 366 387 375 367
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    175 5 295 307 297 296 368 380 370 369
    176 5 296 297 276 277 369 370 349 350
    177 5 314 283 274 302 387 356 347 375
    178 5 302 274 288 307 375 347 361 380
    179 5 307 288 313 297 380 361 386 370
    180 5 297 313 275 276 370 386 348 349
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    182 5 274 278 322 288 347 351 395 361
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    185 5 315 253 254 278 388 326 327 351
    186 5 278 254 255 322 351 327 328 395
    187 5 322 255 256 317 395 328 329 390
    188 5 317 256 257 273 390 329 330 346
    189 5 326 331 332 327 399 404 405 400
    190 5 327 332 333 328 400 405 406 401
    191 5 328 333 334 329 401 406 407 402
    192 5 329 334 335 330 402 407 408 403
    193 5 331 336 337 332 404 409 410 405
    194 5 332 337 338 333 405 410 411 406
    195 5 333 338 339 334 406 411 412 407
    196 5 334 339 340 335 407 412 413 408
    197 5 336 341 342 337 409 414 415 410
    198 5 337 342 343 338 410 415 416 411
    199 5 338 343 344 339 411 416 417 412
    200 5 339 344 345 340 412 417 418 413
    201 5 330 335 352 346 403 408 425 419
    202 5 346 352 353 348 419 425 426 421
    203 5 348 353 354 349 421 426 427 422
    204 5 349 354 355 350 422 427 428 423
    205 5 335 340 357 352 408 413 430 425
    206 5 352 357 358 353 425 430 431 426
    207 5 353 358 359 354 426 431 432 427
    208 5 354 359 360 355 427 432 433 428
    209 5 340 345 362 357 413 418 435 430
    210 5 357 362 363 358 430 435 436 431
    211 5 358 363 364 359 431 436 437 432
    212 5 359 364 365 360 432 437 438 433
    213 5 367 372 371 366 440 445 444 439
    214 5 368 373 372 367 441 446 445 440
    215 5 369 374 373 368 442 447 446 441
    216 5 350 355 374 369 423 428 447 442
    217 5 372 377 376 371 445 450 449 444
    218 5 373 378 377 372 446 451 450 445
    219 5 374 379 378 373 447 452 451 446
    220 5 355 360 379 374 428 433 452 447
    221 5 377 382 381 376 450 455 454 449
    222 5 378 383 382 377 451 456 455 450
    223 5 379 384 383 378 452 457 456 451
    224 5 360 365 384 379 433 438 457 452
    225 5 366 371 392 387 439 444 465 460
    226 5 387 392 393 356 460 465 466 429
    227 5 356 393 394 388 429 466 467 461
    228 5 388 394 331 326 461 467 404 399
    229 5 371 376 397 392 444 449 470 465
    230 5 392 397 398 393 465 470 471 466
    231 5 393 398 389 394 466 471 462 467
    232 5 394 389 336 331 467 462 409 404
    233 5 376 381 396 397 449 454 469 470
    234 5 397 396 391 398 470 469 464 471
    235 5 398 391 385 389 471 464 458 462
    236 5 389 385 341 336 462 458 414 409
    237 5 366 387 375 367 439 460 448 440
    238 5 367 375 380 368 440 448 453 441
    239 5 368 380 370 369 441 453 443 442
    240 5 369 370 349 350 442 443 422 423
    241 5 387 356 347 375 460 429 420 448
    242 5 375 347 361 380 448 420 434 453
    243 5 380 361 386 370 453 434 459 443
    244 5 370 386 348 349 443 459 421 422
    245 5 356 388 351 347 429 461 424 420
    246 5 347 351 395 361 420 424 468 434
    247 5 361 395 390 386 434 468 463 459
    248 5 386 390 346 348 459 463 419 421
    249 5 388 326 327 351 461 399 400 424
    250 5 351 327 328 395 424 400 401 468
    251 5 395 328 329 390 468 401 402 463
    252 5 390 329 330 346 463 402 403 419
    253 5 399 404 405 400 472 477 478 473
    254 5 400 405 406 401 473 478 479 474
    255 5 401 406 407 402 474 479 480 475
    256 5 402 407 408 403 475 480 481 476
    257 5 404 409 410 405 477 482 483 478
    258 5 405 410 411 406 478 483 484 479
    259 5 406 411 412 407 479 484 485 480
    260 5 407 412 413 408 480 485 486 481
    261 5 409 414 415 410 482 487 488 483
    262 5 410 415 416 411 483 488 489 484
    263 5 411 416 417 412 484 489 490 485
    264 5 412 417 418 413 485 490 491 486
    265 5 403 408 425 419 476 481 498 492
    266 5 419 425 426 421 492 498 499 494
    267 5 421 426 427 422 494 499 500 495
    268 5 422 427 428 423 495 500 501 496
    269 5 408 413 430 425 481 486 503 498
    270 5 425 430 431 426 498 503 504 499
    271 5 426 431 432 427 499 504 505 500
    272 5 427 432 433 428 500 505 506 501
    273 5 413 418 435 430 486 491 508 503
    274 5 430 435 436 431 503 508 509 504
    275 5 431 436 437 432 504 509 510 505
    276 5 432 437 438 433 505 510 511 506
    277 5 440 445 444 439 513 518 517 512
    278 5 441 446 445 440 514 519 518 513
    279 5 442 447 446 441 515 520 519 514
    280 5 423 428 447 442 496 501 520 515
    281 5 445 450 449 444 518 523 522 517
    282 5 446 451 450 445 519 524 523 518
    283 5 447 452 451 446 520 525 524 519
    284 5 428 433 452 447 501 506 525 520
    285 5 450 455 454 449 523 528 527 522
    286 5 451 456 455 450 524 529 528 523
    287 5 452 457 456 451 525 530 529 524
    288 5 433 438 457 452 506 511 530 525
    289 5 439 444 465 460 512 517 538 533
    290 5 460 465 466 429 533 538 539 502
    291 5 429 466 467 461 502 539 540 534
    292 5 461 467 404 399 534 540 477 472
    293 5 444 449 470 465 517 522 543 538
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    *INITIAL_VELOCITY_GENERATION
    $# id styp omega vx vy vz ivatn icid
    5 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 -30.0 0 0
    $# xc yc zc nx ny nz phase irigid
    0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0
    *MAT_PIECEWISE_LINEAR_PLASTICITY
    $# mid ro e pr sigy etan fail tdel
    1 7850.02.09000E11 0.292.000000E8 1.01.00000E21 0.0
    $# c p lcss lcsr vp
    0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0
    $# eps1 eps2 eps3 eps4 eps5 eps6 eps7 eps8
    0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    $# es1 es2 es3 es4 es5 es6 es7 es8
    0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    *MAT_ELASTIC
    $# mid ro e pr da db not used not used
    2 2850.07.20000E10 0.3 0.0 0.0 0 0
    *PART
    $# title
    fiber1
    $# pid secid mid eosid hgid grav adpopt tmid
    1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
    *PART
    $# title
    fiber2
    $# pid secid mid eosid hgid grav adpopt tmid
    2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
    *PART
    $# title
    fiber3
    $# pid secid mid eosid hgid grav adpopt tmid
    3 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
    *PART
    $# title
    fiber4
    $# pid secid mid eosid hgid grav adpopt tmid
    4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
    *PART
    $# title
    cylindersolid
    $# pid secid mid eosid hgid grav adpopt tmid
    5 2 2 0 0 0 0 0
    *SECTION_BEAM
    $# secid elform shrf qr/irid cst scoor nsm naupd
    1 4 1.0 2 0 0.0 0.0 0
    $# ts1 ts2 tt1 tt2
    0.4 0.4 5.0 5.0
    *SECTION_SOLID
    $# secid elform aet unused unused unused cohoff gaskett
    2 2 0 0.0 0.0
    *CONTACT_AUTOMATIC_BEAMS_TO_SURFACE_ID
    $# cid title
    1
    $# surfa surfb surfatyp surfbtyp saboxid sbboxid sapr sbpr
    1 5 3 3 0 0 0 0
    $# fs fd dc vc vdc penchk bt dt
    0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0.01.00000E20
    $# sfsa sfsb sast sbst sfsat sfsbt fsf vsf
    1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
    *CONTACT_AUTOMATIC_BEAMS_TO_SURFACE_ID
    $# cid title
    2
    $# surfa surfb surfatyp surfbtyp saboxid sbboxid sapr sbpr
    2 5 3 3 0 0 0 0
    $# fs fd dc vc vdc penchk bt dt
    0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0.01.00000E20
    $# sfsa sfsb sast sbst sfsat sfsbt fsf vsf
    1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
    *CONTACT_AUTOMATIC_BEAMS_TO_SURFACE_ID
    $# cid title
    3
    $# surfa surfb surfatyp surfbtyp saboxid sbboxid sapr sbpr
    3 5 3 3 0 0 0 0
    $# fs fd dc vc vdc penchk bt dt
    0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0.01.00000E20
    $# sfsa sfsb sast sbst sfsat sfsbt fsf vsf
    1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
    *CONTACT_AUTOMATIC_BEAMS_TO_SURFACE_ID
    $# cid title
    4
    $# surfa surfb surfatyp surfbtyp saboxid sbboxid sapr sbpr
    4 5 3 3 0 0 0 0
    $# fs fd dc vc vdc penchk bt dt
    0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0.01.00000E20
    $# sfsa sfsb sast sbst sfsat sfsbt fsf vsf
    1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
    *CONTACT_AUTOMATIC_GENERAL
    $# cid title
    $# surfa surfb surfatyp surfbtyp saboxid sbboxid sapr sbpr
    1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0
    $# fs fd dc vc vdc penchk bt dt
    0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0.01.00000E20
    $# sfsa sfsb sast sbst sfsat sfsbt fsf vsf
    1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
    *SET_PART_LIST
    $# sid da1 da2 da3 da4 solver
    1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0MECH
    $# pid1 pid2 pid3 pid4 pid5 pid6 pid7 pid8
    1 2 3 4 0 0 0 0
    *END
- February 27, 2026 at 3:25 pm
  
  ErKo
  Ansys Employee
  
  As I said Ansys empl. can not download or run models . Perhaps others can run the model.
  
  I would suggest to just take away all contacts you have above and use only this one (so you should have only one contact card):
  
  *CONTACT_AUTOMATIC_GENERAL
  $# cid title
  $# surfa surfb surfatyp surfbtyp saboxid sbboxid sapr sbpr
  0 0 5 5 0 0 0 0
  $# fs fd dc vc vdc penchk bt dt
  0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0.01.00000E20
  $# sfsa sfsb sast sbst sfsat sfsbt fsf vsf
  1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
  Also perhaps reduce the time step a bit:
  
  *CONTROL_TIMESTEP
  
  tssfac
  All the best
  
  Erko
  PS: See here for more info on general contact:
  
  https://innovationspace.ansys.com/forum/forums/topic/ls-dyna-beam-nodes-contact/
  - February 27, 2026 at 3:59 pm
    
    tut06916
    Subscriber
    
    Since I still have the cylinder crashing those beams. I set SURFA as 1, which is the part set of all beams, and SURFB as 5, which is the cylinder part. Do you mean this? I tried, but it still doesn't work.
- February 27, 2026 at 4:05 pm
  
  ErKo
  Ansys Employee
  
  I hope my respond was very clear. Again below:
  
  I would suggest to just take away all contacts you have above and use only this one below (so you should have only one contact card):
  (see the surfatyp surfbtyp = 5)
  
  *CONTACT_AUTOMATIC_GENERAL
  $# cid title
  $# surfa surfb surfatyp surfbtyp saboxid sbboxid sapr sbpr
  0 0 5 5 0 0 0 0
  $# fs fd dc vc vdc penchk bt dt
  0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0.01.00000E20
  $# sfsa sfsb sast sbst sfsat sfsbt fsf vsf
  1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
  
  Here is anyways some general posts on contact between beams and solids:
  
  PS: See here for more info on general contact:
  
  https://innovationspace.ansys.com/forum/forums/topic/ls-dyna-beam-nodes-contact/
  
  Also reduce the time step a bit – insert this this card:
  
  *CONTROL_TIMESTEP
  
  tssfac set to 0.9 perhaps
  
  Perhaps other forum members can run this and let you know if they have some feedback.
  
  All the best
  Erko
  - February 27, 2026 at 4:31 pm
    
    tut06916
    Subscriber
    
    Thank you, it works this time. Some elements in red circle are rotated by a certain angle while other elements on the same beam are not. Is that normal? And you can see the blue and red beams are much lower than other beams during deformation. Is that correct?

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