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Load displacement curve

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      Hello,


      I am analyzing a rectangular hollow steel section. When I draw the load displacement curve, the load keeps increasing always unless the curve becomes smooth and parallel to x-axis rather than the curve going down after reaching ultimate load. What can be the problem?

    • peteroznewman
      Subscriber

      Please insert images of your model, the geometry, the material data, the support, the load and the results graph.

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      This is rectangular hollow section model with K joint. All the ends of braces are constrained except one brace loaded axially in compression with displacement loads.


      E= 210 GPa


      poissions ratio= 0.3


      Displacement load = 100 mm


       


       


    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      and here is the load-disp curve


       


       


    • mrife
      Ansys Employee

      Ahmad


      We will need to know the material model used to properly answer this.  Maybe post the graph of the model data (material) too.


      I'm assuming that there is some rate independent plasticity model defined.  Otherwise why would you expect the force-deflection curve to go negative slope?  Buckling?  


       


      Mike

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      Hey Mike,


      Here is the material model for steel grade S500M


       


      TB,PLASTIC,1,1,27,MISO          
      TBTEMP,0.0                       ! Temperatur = 0.0
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0000,529
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0055,530
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0155,534
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0255,568
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0355,593
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0455,614
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0555,631
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0655,645
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0755,657
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0855,667
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0955,676
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1055,685
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1155,692
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1213,697
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1455,721
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1705,742
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1955,761
      TBPT,DEFI,0.2455,794
      TBPT,DEFI,0.2955,822
      TBPT,DEFI,0.3455,847
      TBPT,DEFI,0.3955,868
      TBPT,DEFI,0.4955,906
      TBPT,DEFI,0.5955,938
      TBPT,DEFI,0.6955,966
      TBPT,DEFI,0.7955,991
      TBPT,DEFI,0.8955,1013
      TBPT,DEFI,0.9955,1034

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      This is the material graph. I want to see the ultimate force experienced and its strange to me how the force isn't reduced and just keep increasing even for large displacement loads.


       


       


       


       

    • Vitaliy Degtyarev
      Subscriber

      Hello Ahmad,


      How do apply the load to your model? Generally, a descending branch can be obtained if the model is loaded by imposed displacements (not forces) applied in small increments. The load-displacement curve becomes the reaction-displacement curve in this case.  

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      Hello,


      Yeah I applied displacement loads but no negative slope experienced.

    • Vitaliy Degtyarev
      Subscriber

      You may try to add steps/substeps to apply the displacements in smaller increments. If you upload your model I could look into it.  

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      I've tried it with various substeps ranging up to 200 but it doesn't help

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      Here is the model for circular hollow section.


       


      /clear,start
      /filname,Model_1_S500M_CHS,1

      !*afun,deg
      !/UNITS,SI


      !************ Chord parameters(in mm) ******************

      H=   840    !height of chord from local coordinate system
      Roc= 140    !Outer radius of chord
      to=  20
      ric= 120    !inner radius of chord
      L=   2300    !length of chord


      !************ Brace parameters(in mm) ******************

      Hob= 590    !inclined height of brace
      Rob= 70    !Outer radius of brace
      rib= 50    !Inner radius of brace
      Lob= 850    !inclined length of brace
      Lo=  1248.1    !length of brace from chord origin
      g=   85    !gap between the braces


      !********** Material parameters ***********
      EM=210000
      v=0.3

      !********** Element definition ***********
      /prep7

      !et,1,42
      et,1,186
       
      Type,all            !Zuweistung zu Elementtyp 1
      MPTEMP,1,0                       ! Definiere Temperatur

      !********** Base materials **********


      MPDATA,EX,1,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      MPDATA,EY,1,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      MPDATA,EZ,1,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      MPDATA,PRXY,1,,v                 ! Definiere Querdehnungszahl
      MPDATA,PRYZ,1,,v                 ! Definiere Querdehnungszahl
      MPDATA,PRXZ,1,,v

      !MPDATA,EX,2,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      !MPDATA,EY,2,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      !MPDATA,EZ,2,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      !MPDATA,PRXY,2,,v                 ! Definiere Querdehnungszahl
      !MPDATA,PRYZ,2,,v                 ! Definiere Querdehnungszahl
      !MPDATA,PRXZ,2,,v


      TB,PLASTIC,1,1,27,MISO            ! Aktiviere TB,PLASTIC Dateneingabe
      TBTEMP,0.0                       ! Temperatur = 0.0
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0000,529
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0055,530
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0155,534
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0255,568
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0355,593
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0455,614
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0555,631
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0655,645
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0755,657
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0855,667
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0955,676
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1055,685
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1155,692
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1213,697
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1455,721
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1705,742
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1955,761
      TBPT,DEFI,0.2455,794
      TBPT,DEFI,0.2955,822
      TBPT,DEFI,0.3455,847
      TBPT,DEFI,0.3955,868
      TBPT,DEFI,0.4955,906
      TBPT,DEFI,0.5955,938
      TBPT,DEFI,0.6955,966
      TBPT,DEFI,0.7955,991
      TBPT,DEFI,0.8955,1013
      TBPT,DEFI,0.9955,1034


      !********** Chord ***************

      cyl4,0,H,Roc,0,ric,180,0
      cyl4,0,H,Roc,180,ric,360,0
      asel,all
      aglue,all
      vext,1,3,,,,L

      !********** Creating working plane at a new location **********

      wpoffs,0,880,200
      wprota,0,40,0

      !********** 1st brace *************

      cyl4,0,Hob,Rob,0,rib,180,0
      cyl4,0,Hob,Rob,180,rib,360,0
      asel,all
      aglue,all

      csys,4
      vext,11,13,0,,,400


      !***Adding areas
      aadd,12,18
      csys,4
      allsel
      vext,21,0,0,0,0,400
      vsba,5,4,,keep,keep
      allsel

      vdele,7,,,1
      vdele,5,,,1

      !*** penetrating brace into chord
      csys,0
      vext,31,,,,-100

      vsba,5,4,,keep,keep
      vsba,5,6,,keep,keep
      vdele,5,,,1
      vdele,7,,,1
      vdele,8,,,1
      allsel
      !********** 2nd brace *********

      vsel,s,volu,,3
      vsel,a,volu,,4
      vsel,a,volu,,6
      cm,volume,volu

      vsymm,z,volume,,0,,0,0
      allsel

      vsel,s,volu,,5
      vsel,a,volu,,7
      vsel,a,volu,,8
      !vsel,a,volu,,10
      cm,vgene,volu

      vgen,2,vgene,,,,,1125*2 + g,,0,1

      !*** Gluing 2nd brace with chord
      vglue,8,1
      allsel

      !*** Refining chord volu for meshing
      agen,2,1,,,,,750,0,0
      agen,2,3,,,,,750,0,0

      agen,3,43,44,,,,410,410,0,0

      !*** Dividing volu into sub-volu
      vsel,s,volu,,1
      vsel,a,volu,,2
      cm,volu-div,volu

      asel,s,area,,43,48,1
      cm,area-div,area
      allsel

      vsba,volu-div,area-div,,keep,keep

      !*************Keypoints for evaluation of results
      !**top part
      k,1002,-0.35,979.99,1160        !mid of braces
      k,43,-0.58,979.99,1227.39        !toe
                      ! kp,30 for saddle
      k,44,-1.99,979.98,1445.13        !heel
      k,41,-0.35,979.99,1570        !near to heel
                 
      !******Gluing volume parts together
      vadd,13,6,8,14
      vglue,17,9,11,15
      vglue,17,16,10,12
      vglue,15,16
      vglue,17,3,4
      vglue,6,5,7


      !***** Meshing
      smrt,5
      mshkey,0
      mshape,1,3d
      vmesh,8


      mshkey,1
      vsweep,9
      vsweep,10
      vsweep,15
      vsweep,16
      vsweep,11
      vsweep,12

      vsweep,3
      vsweep,4
      vsweep,5
      vsweep,7

      !******* Boundary conditions *********

      csys,0
      nsel,s,loc,z,0        !restraning chord origin
      d,all,all,0
      allsel

      nsel,s,loc,z,L        !restraning chord end
      d,all,all,0
      allsel

      !***1st brace
      csys,4
      wpoffs,0,500,0
      nsel,s,loc,z,1,-1
      nsel,r,loc,y,0,200
      nmodif,all,,,,,40,,
      d,all,all,0
      allsel

      !***2nd brace
      wprota,0,-40,0
      wpoffs,0,0,1290
      wprota,0,-40,0
      wpoffs,0,18,

      nsel,s,loc,z,0,50
      nsel,r,loc,y,0,190
      nmodif,all,,,,,-40,,
      d,all,uz,-200
      d,all,uy,0
      d,all,ux,0
      allsel
      csys,0

      !autots,on
      kbc,0
      NSUBST,50,300,50

      antype,static

      /solu
      outres,all,all
      solve
      finish

      save

    • Bhargava Sista
      Ansys Employee

      When I draw the load displacement curve, the load keeps increasing always unless the curve becomes smooth and parallel to x-axis rather than the curve going down after reaching ultimate load. What can be the problem?



      Ahmad, the multilinear plastic model that you defined does not include any information about the ultimate load. Once the total plastic strain in the material goes beyond the max. value defined in the curve, the solver treats the material as perfectly plastic (stress-strain curve parallel to X-axis). If the objective of your simulation is to check at what point does the structure fail, then look for the displacement at which the max. stress in the structure reaches its ultimate strength.

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      Hey,


      But as for the case of tensile test where the curve experiences negative slope when necking occurs, shouldn't there also be a negative slope for my case when the specimen undergoes large deflection when loaded?

    • Bhargava Sista
      Ansys Employee

      But the curve that you had input does not contain that portion of the material so the model will not record that response.


      A bit of digression but relevant information: when you input the material response note that the deformation should be uniform (same strain throughout the material) which is not the case when necking happens.


      Also, you're performing a static analysis in which case a negative slope is considered as instability and you will run into convergence issues. In your case, you're still able to achieve convergence (I'm assuming you do) as your loading is displacement driven.

    • Vitaliy Degtyarev
      Subscriber

      Ahmad,


      When I ran your file, I got some errors; and the model looks as shown below, which does not seem to be correct. Could you double check your model?


      Thanks,


      Vitaliy


    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      Hey,


      Thats little strange I just copied the code I posted and by me it runs okay.

    • Vitaliy Degtyarev
      Subscriber

      Below is the error message I received. Hopefully, ANSYS people on the forum could help us with this.


       


      Internal error in the volume Sweeping.  The VSWE command is ignored.    


       (Reference: Match 510) Please send the data leading to this operation   


       to your technical support provider, as this will allow ANSYS, Inc to    


       improve the program.   

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

       Hey Vitaliy,


      Can you run this code? Its with same material model but with rectangular hollow section and mapped meshing.


       


      finish
      /clear,start
      /filname,Model_8_S500M_SHS,1

      *afun,deg
      /UNITS,SI
      boptn,keep,no
      !********** chord parameters *************
      Bo=0.280
      Ho=0.280   
      To=0.012
      Len=2.1
      RCO=0.024    !Outer radius of chord
      RCI=0.012    !Inner radius of chord

      !********** brace parameters *************
      b1=0.185
      h1=0.185
      t1=0.0096
      lob=0.70    !length of brace
      lo=1.47        !location of brace from chord origin
      linc=0.8    !inclined length of brace
      ro=0.0192
      ri=0.0096
      gap= 0.085    ! weld gap b/w two braces

      !********** Material parameters ***********
      EM=210000000000 !(Pa)
      v=0.3

      !********** Element definition ***********
      /prep7
      et,1,42
      et,2,186
       
      Type,all            !Zuweistung zu Elementtyp 1
      MPTEMP,1,0                       ! Definiere Temperatur

      !********** Base materials **********


      MPDATA,EX,1,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      MPDATA,EY,1,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      MPDATA,EZ,1,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      MPDATA,PRXY,1,,v                 ! Definiere Querdehnungszahl
      MPDATA,PRYZ,1,,v                 ! Definiere Querdehnungszahl
      MPDATA,PRXZ,1,,v

      MPDATA,EX,2,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      MPDATA,EY,2,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      MPDATA,EZ,2,,EM                  ! Definiere E-Modul
      MPDATA,PRXY,2,,v                 ! Definiere Querdehnungszahl
      MPDATA,PRYZ,2,,v                 ! Definiere Querdehnungszahl
      MPDATA,PRXZ,2,,v


      TB,PLASTIC,1,1,27,MISO            ! Aktiviere TB,PLASTIC Dateneingabe
      TBTEMP,0.0                       ! Temperatur = 0.0
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0000,529000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0055,530000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0155,534000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0255,568000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0355,593000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0455,614000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0555,631000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0655,645000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0755,657000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0855,667000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.0955,676000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1055,685000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1155,692000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1213,697000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1455,721000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1705,742000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.1955,761000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.2455,794000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.2955,822000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.3455,847000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.3955,868000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.4955,906000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.5955,938000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.6955,966000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.7955,991000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.8955,1013000000
      TBPT,DEFI,0.9955,1034000000

      !********** chord ***********
      CYL4,rco,ho-rco,rco,-180,,-270,0        !outer geometry – radii
      CYL4,rco,rco,rco,-90,,-180,0            !outer geometry – radii
      CYL4,bo-rco,ho-rco,rco,0,,90,0            !outer geometry – radii
      CYL4,bo-rco,rco,rco,-90,,0,0            !outer geometry – radii

      asel,s,area,,all
      cm,Outer-radii,area                !grouping outer geometry

      allsel

      CYL4,rco,ho-rco,rci,-180,,-270,0        !inner geometry – radii
      CYL4,rco,rco,rci,-90,,-180,0            !inner geometry – radii
      CYL4,bo-rco,ho-rco,rci,0,,90,0            !inner geometry – radii
      CYL4,bo-rco,rco,rci,-90,,0,0            !inner geometry – radii

      asel,s,area,,all
      asel,u,area,,Outer-radii            !grouping inner geometry
      cm,Inner-radii,area

      allsel

      asba,Outer-radii,Inner-radii

      rect,rco,bo-rco,0,to
      rect,rco,bo-rco,ho,ho-to
      rect,0,to,rco,ho-rco
      rect,bo-to,bo,rco,ho-rco

      allsel
      aglue,all

      vext,all,,,0,0,Len

      vsel,all
      vglue,all

      !********** Creating wp at a new location **********
      wpoffs,0.04625,Ho,0.7
      wprota,0,40,0
      wpoffs,0,0,-0.5
      csys,4

      !********** Brace **********
      CYL4,ro,h1-ro,ro,-180,,-270,0
      CYL4,ro,ro,ro,-90,,-180,0
      CYL4,b1-ro,h1-ro,ro,0,,90,0
      CYL4,b1-ro,ro,ro,-90,,0,0

      asel,s,area,,41,44,1
      cm,Brace-outerradius,area       

      allsel

      CYL4,ro,h1-ro,ri,-180,,-270,0
      CYL4,ro,ro,ri,-90,,-180,0
      CYL4,b1-ro,h1-ro,ri,0,,90,0
      CYL4,b1-ro,ro,ri,-90,,0

      asel,s,area,,45,48,1
      cm,Brace-innerradius,area

      allsel
      asba,Brace-outerradius,Brace-innerradius

      rect,ro,b1-ro,0,t1
      rect,ro,b1-ro,h1,h1-t1
      rect,0,t1,ro,h1-ro
      rect,b1-t1,b1,ro,h1-ro

      allsel
      aglue,51,42,49,43,50,41,52,44

      !*** Extruding 1st brace ****

      csys,4
      vext,41,48,1,0,0,0.75

      wpoffs,0,0,0.5
      wprota,0,50,0

      vsel,s,volu,,9,16,1
      vsbw,all,sepo,delete

      vsel,all
      vdele,25,32,1,1

      wprota,0,-50,0
      wpoffs,0,0,-0.5


      !******** Generating 2nd brace *******
      csys,0
      vsymm,z,17,24,1,,0,0
      vgen,2,9,16,1,,,1.02*2 + gap,,0,1

      vglue,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16        !gluing brace parts together

      vgen,2,9,16,1,,,-0.03219,,0,1
      vgen,2,17,24,1,,,0.03219,,0,1

      !******** penetrating braces into chord by brace area

      vext,90,,,,-to            !from first brace
      vext,95,,,,-to
      vext,85,,,,-to
      vext,100,,,,-to
      vext,103,,,,-to
      vext,109,,,,-to
      vext,106,,,,-to
      vext,112,,,,-to


      vext,50,,,,-to            !from second brace
      vext,56,,,,-to
      vext,62,,,,-to
      vext,68,,,,-to
      vext,74,,,,-to
      vext,78,,,,-to
      vext,114,,,,-to
      vext,118,,,,-to

      !***** Refining the geometry for meshing

      agen,2,1,8,1,,,0.6935,,0,0
      agen,2,1,8,1,,,1.43150,,0,0
      agen,2,1,8,1,,,1.06250,,0,0

      agen,2,1,,,,,0.763369897476,,0,0
      agen,2,3,8,1,,,0.763369897476,,0,0
      agen,2,1,,,,,0.991439010493,,0,0
      agen,2,3,8,1,,,0.991439010493,,0,0

      agen,2,1,,,,,1.13356098951,,0,0
      agen,2,3,8,1,,,1.13356098951,,0,0
      agen,2,1,,,,,1.36163010252,,0,0
      agen,2,3,8,1,,,1.36163010252,,0,0


      a,225,78,112,226
      a,246,109,79,245
      a,265,266,141,93
      a,285,286,144,96

      a,103,228,227,73
      a,102,248,247,76
      a,86,138,268,267
      a,139,288,287,87

      !********* Dividing volumes into sub volumes *********

      vsel,s,volu,,1,8,1
      cm,first-voludiv,volu

      asel,s,area,,49,54,1
      asel,a,area,,201,208,1       
      asel,a,area,,225,231,1       
      asel,a,area,,232,238,1       
      asel,a,area,,217,224,1       
      asel,a,area,,246,252,1       
      asel,a,area,,239,245,1       
      asel,a,area,,209,216,1       
      cm,first-areadiv,area

      allsel
      vsba,first-voludiv,first-areadiv,,keep,keep
      allsel

      vsel,s,volu,,42
      vsel,a,volu,,99
      vsel,a,volu,,100
      vsel,a,volu,,50
      cm,sec-voludiv,volu

      asel,a,area,,259,262,1
      asel,a,area,,255,258,1
      cm,sec-areadiv,area

      allsel
      vsba,sec-voludiv,sec-areadiv,,keep,keep
      allsel

      lcomb,663,664,no
      lcomb,668,667,no


      agen,2,292,,,0.04395,,,,0,0
      agen,2,290,,,-0.04395,,,,0,0
      agen,2,268,,,0.04395,,,,0,0
      agen,2,266,,,-0.04395,,,,0,0

      a,98,72,52,134        !between braces
      a,100,71,55,136

      vsel,s,volu,,113
      vsel,a,volu,,116
      cm,volubw-braces,volu

      asel,s,area,,509
      asel,a,area,,510
      cm,areabw-braces,area

      vsba,volubw-braces,areabw-braces,,keep,keep

      allsel

      a,131,42,294,296    !regularizing braces edges
      a,290,129,39,292
      a,65,105,299,300
      a,107,304,303,66

      vsel,s,volu,,50
      vsel,a,volu,,42
      vsel,a,volu,,114
      vsel,a,volu,,115
      cm,chord-voludiv,volu

      asel,s,area,,505
      asel,a,area,,506
      asel,a,area,,507
      asel,a,area,,508

      asel,a,area,,218
      asel,a,area,,530
      asel,a,area,,531
      asel,a,area,,532
      cm,chord-areadiv,area

      allsel
      vsba,chord-voludiv,chord-areadiv,,keep,keep
      allsel

      !******Concatenating areas
      accat,525,399
      accat,330,544
      accat,354,552
      accat,520,396   
      accat,327,540

      !****** Adding volumes again to make sure meshing

      vadd,40,112
      vadd,39,103
      vadd,38,106
      vadd,37,104
      vadd,32,111
      vadd,30,107
      vadd,31,110
      vadd,29,109

      !****** Gluing volumes together to ensure meshing

      vglue,118,40,34,39,36,37,33,38,35
      vglue,117,30,28,29,27,31,26,32,25

      !******* Meshing *********

      mshkey,1

      !***Braces

      lsel,s,line,,98        !First brace
      lsel,a,line,,101
      lsel,a,line,,103
      lsel,a,line,,100

      lsel,a,line,,190    !Second brace
      lsel,a,line,,186
      lsel,a,line,,178
      lsel,a,line,,182
      cm,brace-semicircle,line

      lsel,s,line,,73        !First brace
      lsel,a,line,,81
      lsel,a,line,,70
      lsel,a,line,,84

      lsel,a,line,,96        !Second brace
      lsel,a,line,,127
      lsel,a,line,,68
      lsel,a,line,,113
      cm,brace-thickness,line

      lsel,s,line,,72        !First brace
      lsel,a,line,,79
      lsel,a,line,,69
      lsel,a,line,,88

      lsel,a,line,,114    !Second brace
      lsel,a,line,,93
      lsel,a,line,,128
      lsel,a,line,,71
      cm,brace-rect,line

      allsel
      lesize,brace-semicircle,,,7
      lesize,brace-thickness,,,2
      lesize,brace-rect,,,6
      esize,0,5

      vmesh,9,16,1
      vmesh,17,24,1
      allsel

      !***Sweep part
      lsel,s,line,,223    !for volu 117
      lsel,a,line,,199
      lsel,a,line,,205
      lsel,a,line,,213

      lsel,a,line,,278        !for volu 118
      lsel,a,line,,272
      lsel,a,line,,288
      lsel,a,line,,262
      cm,sweep-thickness,line

      !lsel,s,line,,664
      lsel,s,line,,165
      lsel,a,line,,167
      lsel,a,line,,164

      lsel,a,line,,184
      lsel,a,line,,192
      lsel,a,line,,188
      lsel,a,line,,180
      cm,sweep-semicircle,line

      lsel,s,line,,160
      lsel,a,line,,139
      lsel,a,line,,149
      lsel,a,line,,135

      lsel,a,line,,120
      lsel,a,line,,106
      lsel,a,line,,170
      cm,sweep-rect,line

      allsel
      lesize,sweep-thickness,,,2
      lesize,sweep-semicircle,,,7
      lesize,sweep-rect,,,6

      vsweep,110
      vsweep,109
      allsel

      !****Brace adjacent side on chord (right and left)
      lsel,s,line,,440    !First brace
      lsel,a,line,,436
      lsel,a,line,,488    !Second brace
      lsel,a,line,,484
      cm,adj-thickness,line

      lsel,s,line,,501    !longitudinal direction
      lsel,a,line,,500
      lsel,a,line,,492
      lsel,a,line,,494
      cm,adj-long,line

      lsel,s,line,,631    !First brace
      lsel,a,line,,629
      lsel,a,line,,645    !Sec brace
      lsel,a,line,,647
      cm,adj-rect,line

      allsel
      lesize,adj-thickness,,,2
      lesize,adj-rect,,,6
      lesize,adj-long,,,4

      vmesh,107
      vmesh,108
      vmesh,101
      vmesh,105


      !****Brace penetration into chord (right and left)
      !(lesize cannot be controlled)

      vmesh,26,28,2    !first brace
      vmesh,35,36,1    !Second brace


      !****Brace penetration into chord (front and back)
      !(lesize cannot be controlled)

      vmesh,25,27,2    !First brace
      vmesh,33,34,1    !Second brace


      !****Small curved volume edges

      vmesh,37,40,1
      vmesh,102,103,1
      vmesh,104
      vmesh,106

      !****Brace adjacent sides on chord (front/back)
      lsel,s,line,,696    !First brace
      lsel,a,line,,687
      lsel,a,line,,373    !Second brace
      lsel,a,line,,705
      cm,rec-long,line
      allsel

      lesize,rec-long,,,4
      allsel

      vmesh,119,125,6        !First brace
      vmesh,120,126,6        !Second brace


      !***** Concatenating/meshing the adjacent curve volu
      accat,393,520        !First brace
      accat,402,525        !Second brace
      accat,548,351

      vmesh,122,124,2        !front
      vmesh,133,135,2        !back



      lsel,s,line,,609,610,1
      lsel,a,line,,613,614,1
      lesize,all,,,3
      allsel

      vmesh,121,123,2        !front
      vmesh,134,136,2        !back


      !******* Chord curves surrounding braces to downwards
      !*** Top-side curve
      lsel,s,line,,366
      lsel,a,line,,342
      lsel,a,line,,344
      lsel,a,line,,368
      cm,chord-curves,line
      allsel

      lesize,chord-curves,,,3
      allsel

      vmesh,69,70,1
      vmesh,93,94,1
      vmesh,82,84,2
      vmesh,81,83,2
      vmesh,88,89,1
      vmesh,62,63,1

      !*** Flanges (left/right) beginning from 1st brace
      lsel,s,line,,334
      lsel,a,line,,332
      lsel,a,line,,356
      lsel,a,line,,358
      lesize,all,,,5

      vmesh,58,59,1
      vmesh,86,87,1
      vmesh,73,75,2
      vmesh,74,76,2
      vmesh,91,92,1
      vmesh,65,66,1

      !*** Bottom-side curve
      lsel,s,line,,338,340,1
      lsel,a,line,,362
      lsel,a,line,,364
      lesize,all,,,3
      allsel

      vmesh,60,61,1
      vmesh,95,96,1
      vmesh,77,80,1
      vmesh,97,98,1
      vmesh,67,68,1
      allsel

      !*** Bottom chord-rec
      lesize,345,,,6
      lesize,321,,,6
      vmesh,57
      vmesh,85
      vmesh,71,72,1
      vmesh,90
      vmesh,64

      !****** Chord remaining geometry
      !*** From 1st Brace side***
      lesize,526,,,9
      lesize,678,,,9
      lesize,524,,,9
      lesize,527,,,9
      lesize,671,,,9
      lesize,673,,,9
      lesize,527,,,9
      lesize,530,,,9
      vmesh,132        !top chord-rect
      vmesh,127,128,1

      vmesh,47,48,1        !top-side curves
      vmesh,43,44,1        !flanges
      vmesh,45,46,1        !bottom side curves
      vmesh,41        !bottom chord-rect

      !*** From 2nd brace side ***
      vmesh,131        !top chord- rect
      vmesh,129,130,1
      vmesh,55,56        !top-side curves
      vmesh,51,52        !flanges
      vmesh,53,54        !bottom side curves
      vmesh,49        !bottom chord-rect

      !******* Boundary Conditions ********


      csys,0
      nsel,s,loc,z,0        !chord origin
      d,all,all,0
      allsel

      nsel,s,loc,z,len    !chord end
      d,all,all,0
      allsel

      csys,4
      wpoffs,0,0,0.02
      nsel,s,loc,z,0,0.01        !displacement at first brace
      nsel,r,loc,y,0,0.3
      nmodif,all,,,,,40,,       
      d,all,all,0

      wprota,0,-40,0
      wpoffs,0,0,1.45
      wprota,0,-40,0


      nsel,s,loc,z,0,0.03    !displacement at second brace
      nsel,r,loc,y,0,0.3
      nmodif,all,,,,,-40,,
      d,all,uz,-0.3
      d,all,uy,0
      d,all,ux,0
      allsel

      !autots,on
      kbc,0
      NSUBST,30,200,30
      outres,all,all

      /solu
      solve
      finish

      save

    • Vitaliy Degtyarev
      Subscriber

      Ahmad,


       


      Instead of 


      !autots,on
      kbc,0
      NSUBST,30,200,30
      outres,all,all


      Please try the following and see if it gives you what you are looking for


      !autots,on
      kbc,0
      AUTOTS,1 
      NLGEOM,ON 
      NSUBST,100,1e6,100
      outres,all,all


      NLGEOM,ON makes a big difference. I checked reaction at one node only (you need to add all reactions at the end of the loaded brace to get the total load). The reaction went up, then down, then again up. I believe that it went up again due to the membrane action of the chord wall. Basically, the chord wall started to work in tension rather than in bending when wall deflections exceeded the wall thickness (please see large-deflection theory of thin plates for more information on this), which resulted in the hardening phase. Nether the reaction reduction nor hardening phase was observed when NLGEOM,ON was not used. AUTOTS,1 (or autots,on as in your file) may not be needed. I have not tried to run the file without it.


      You should also check von Mises total mechanical strain and limit your maximum load to the one corresponding to the steel ultimate strain. 


      Hope this helps,


      Vitaliy


       


       

    • Ahmad Abubakar
      Subscriber

      Vitaliy,


      Thanks a lot for help. It works

    • leecooper
      Subscriber
      Hi Ahmad,i am mew to ansys,how do you read your force(N) value in Ansys Apdl?
    • mekafime
      Subscriber

      Hi Ahmad


      Interesting model, I'm doing a similar model.

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