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June 16, 2023 at 9:11 pmmrijalSubscriber
Hello,
I am modelling wave propagation in 2D orthotropic shell elements. I am having some issues in figuring out the element direction. I get different element direction when I use (a) ElementTool-- Elemen Edit--Direction and (b) ElementTool--Identify--Element--Shell--Element Direction. I have also attcahed a figure showing element direction as given by both options and I am not sure which direction the solver uses. Any help regarding the issue would be highly appreciated.Â
Manoj Rijal
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June 16, 2023 at 10:38 pmAndreas KoutrasAnsys Employee
Hello,
Could you please copy in the thread the following keywords from your model. Thank you!
*NODE
*ELEMENT
*PART
*MAT
*SECTIONÂ
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June 19, 2023 at 2:39 pmmrijalSubscriber
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Hello,
Thanks for the response. The model has many elements. All info would be too big. I have only included nodes and elements seen in figure. The model is composite with orthotropic properties. Red layer is 90 and brown is 0 degree oriented.Here is the info you requested. Please let me know if you need more info.
*NODE
$#  nid        x        y              z    tc    rc   39969     4.993751     0.05625       0.0    0    0
   39970     4.993751     0.059375       0.0    0    0
   39971     4.993751      0.0625       0.0    0    0
   39972     4.993751     0.065625       0.0    0    0  Â
   39973     4.99375     0.06875       0.0    0    0
   39994     4.996875     0.05625       0.0    0    0
   39995     4.996875     0.059375       0.0    0    0
   39996     4.996875      0.0625       0.0    0    0
   39998     4.996875     0.06875       0.0    0    0
   39997     4.996875     0.065625       0.0    0    0
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   *ELEMENT_SHELL
$#  eid   pid    n1    n2    n3    n4    n5    n6    n7    n8
  38371    10  39969  39994  39995  39970    0    0    0    0
  38372    10  39970  39995  39996  39971    0    0    0    0
*ELEMENT_SHELL_BETA
$#  eid   pid    n1    n2    n3    n4    n5    n6    n7    n8
  38373    11  39971  39996  39997  39972    0    0    0    0
$# Â Â Â Â thic1 Â Â Â Â Â thic2 Â Â Â Â Â thic3 Â Â Â Â Â thic4 Â Â Â Â Â Â beta
       0.0       0.0       0.0       0.0       90.0
  38374    11  39972  39997  39998  39973    0    0    0    0
       0.0       0.0       0.0       0.0       90.0*PART
$# Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â title
0_Laminate_10
$#   pid   secid    mid   eosid    hgid    grav   adpopt    tmid
    10     1     1     0     0     0     0     0
*PART
$# Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â title
90_Laminate_11
$#   pid   secid    mid   eosid    hgid    grav   adpopt    tmid
    11     1     2     0     0     0     0     0*MAT_ORTHOTROPIC_ELASTIC_TITLE
0laminate
$#   mid     ro     ea     eb     ec    prba    prca    prcb
     11.46000E-42.090000E7  1389000  1389000   0.0214   0.0214    0.55
$#   gab    gbc    gca    aopt     g    sigf
  6940000  448200.0  6940000    0.0    0.0    0.0
$#    xp     yp     zp     a1     a2     a3    macf    ihis
    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0     4     0
$#    v1     v2     v3     d1     d2     d3    beta    ref
    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0
*MAT_ORTHOTROPIC_ELASTIC_TITLE
90laminate
$#   mid     ro     ea     eb     ec    prba    prca    prcb
     21.46000E-42.090000E7  1389000  1389000   0.0214   0.0214    0.55
$#   gab    gbc    gca    aopt     g    sigf
  6940000  448200.0  6940000    0.0    0.0    0.0
$#    xp     yp     zp     a1     a2     a3    macf    ihis
    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0     3     0
$#    v1     v2     v3     d1     d2     d3    beta    ref
    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0    0.0*SECTION_SHELL_TITLE
Shell_Comp
$#  secid   elform    shrf    nip   propt  qr/irid   icomp   setyp
     1     13    1.0     4    1.0     -1     0     1
$#    t1     t2     t3     t4    nloc   marea    idof   edgset
    0.5    0.5    0.5    0.5    0.0    0.0    0.0     0Â
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June 20, 2023 at 12:10 amAndreas KoutrasAnsys Employee
Hello,
Thanks for sharing your input.
In Element Tools > Identify,
Elem Dir: shows the element N1 -> N2 direction.Â
Mat Dir: shows the material direction orthotropy (defined by the AOPT, BETA, etc parameters).
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In Element Tools > Element Editing, the Direction option sets the direction of orthotropy axis 1 of the material.Â
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June 20, 2023 at 10:13 ammrijalSubscriber
@Andreas Thank you. It really helped.Â
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