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October 15, 2022 at 2:48 pm
Simon Møller Kristensen
SubscriberHi
I am trying to model a sandwich plate using SOLID186 elements in Ansys Mechinal APDL. To validate my results I am comparing to a shell model which is easy to implement (reason I want to use Solid is that I am later gonna create inserts inside the sandwich).
The model I am making is a square plate with a weak core and two strong faces. It is simply supported in all edges in the midplane. The pressure is a uniformly distributed pressure in the midplane of the sandwich.
Right now the solid model is matching the shell model in deflection and core transverse shear. However the normal stresses in the faces are higher by a factor of 2 compared to the shell model.
I think my problem might be in simulating the same simple supports for the solid model as I want the sides of the model to rotate around the midplane as they are for the shell model (see picture)
Shell model - core and face are rotating perfectly around the midplane.
I have tried all kinds of different approaches using CERIG and MPC184 but none have proven succesfull yet.
The closest I have come is by using the CERIG command and MASS21 elements to constrain the node at the midplane (Master) to the nodes away from the midplane (slaves) in order to try constraining the slaves to rotate around the master (see picture).
However, as you can see from the following results, the upper and lower edges of the sandwich are not rotating around the midplane in the same manner as for the shell model.
Do any of you know how to implement simple support BCs to a solid model in order to achieve the same behaviour as a simply supported shell model?
Another point I see as problematic is that the SOLID186 element does not have rotational degrees of freedom, which I guess is the whole problem since you would need to impose the rotational DOF in some other way.
I have struggled with this problem for weeks know, so all input is highly appreciated.
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October 15, 2022 at 3:13 pm
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October 16, 2022 at 4:36 pm
peteroznewman
SubscriberI used Workbench instead of APDL classic interface and reused a previous student’s model to show you this example. I used a Remote Displacement, Behavior=Rigid, with a pilot node at the center of the end face. One one end there are four constraints as shown below.
On the opposite end are three constraints, though the rotation about X is optional.
These constraints provide the desired deformed shape.
I hope you can translate these Workbench terms into APDL constraints.
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October 17, 2022 at 8:48 am
Simon Møller Kristensen
SubscriberThank you for your input Peter
I have not been able to find the direct translation of the workbench terms into APDL terms.
Would it be possible for you to send the file you have used for your workbench model, so I can try to use for my own problem?
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October 17, 2022 at 12:05 pm
peteroznewman
SubscriberHello Simon,
Here is a link to the APDL code in a Sandwich.inp file: https://jmp.sh/D6RpYMU
Here is a link to the ANSYS 2022 R1 archive file: https://jmp.sh/16sUstc
In Sandwich.inp, look for the following lines
/com,*********** Create Remote Point “Internal Remote Point” ***********
! ——– Remote Point Used by “Remote Displacement” ——–
*set,tid,6
*set,cid,5
et,cid,174
et,tid,170
keyo,tid,2,1 ! Don’t fix the pilot node
keyo,tid,4,0 ! Activate all DOF’s due to large deformation
keyo,cid,12,5 ! Bonded Contact
keyo,cid,4,2 ! Rigid CERIG style load
keyo,cid,2,2 ! MPC style contact
eblock,10,,,24
(15i9)
2159 5 5 5 0 344 349 801 840
2160 5 5 5 0 345 344 840 839
2161 5 5 5 0 346 345 839 838
2162 5 5 5 0 348 346 838 802
2163 5 5 5 0 344 341 350 349
2164 5 5 5 0 345 342 341 344
2165 5 5 5 0 346 343 342 345
2166 5 5 5 0 348 347 343 346
2167 5 5 5 0 341 339 340 350
2168 5 5 5 0 342 338 339 341
2169 5 5 5 0 343 337 338 342
2170 5 5 5 0 347 336 337 343
2171 5 5 5 0 339 665 672 340
2172 5 5 5 0 338 666 665 339
2173 5 5 5 0 337 667 666 338
2174 5 5 5 0 336 671 667 337
2175 5 5 5 0 665 668 484 672
2176 5 5 5 0 666 669 668 665
2177 5 5 5 0 667 670 669 666
2178 5 5 5 0 671 482 670 667
2179 5 5 5 0 670 482 961 1000
2180 5 5 5 0 669 670 1000 999
2181 5 5 5 0 668 669 999 998
2182 5 5 5 0 484 668 998 964
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*set,_npilot,1121
_npilot836=_npilot
type,tid
mat ,cid
real,cid
tshape,pilo
en,2183,_npilot
tshape
/com,*********** Create Remote Point “Internal Remote Point 2” ***********
! ——– Remote Point Used by “Remote Displacement 2” ——–
*set,tid,8
*set,cid,7
et,cid,174
et,tid,170
keyo,tid,2,1 ! Don’t fix the pilot node
keyo,tid,4,0 ! Activate all DOF’s due to large deformation
keyo,cid,12,5 ! Bonded Contact
keyo,cid,4,2 ! Rigid CERIG style load
keyo,cid,2,2 ! MPC style contact
eblock,10,,,24
(15i9)
2184 7 7 7 0 412 478 807 803
2185 7 7 7 0 478 479 806 807
2186 7 7 7 0 479 480 805 806
2187 7 7 7 0 480 473 804 805
2188 7 7 7 0 480 475 474 473
2189 7 7 7 0 479 476 475 480
2190 7 7 7 0 478 477 476 479
2191 7 7 7 0 412 411 477 478
2192 7 7 7 0 475 273 274 474
2193 7 7 7 0 476 272 273 475
2194 7 7 7 0 477 271 272 476
2195 7 7 7 0 411 335 271 477
2196 7 7 7 0 273 795 794 274
2197 7 7 7 0 272 796 795 273
2198 7 7 7 0 271 797 796 272
2199 7 7 7 0 335 733 797 271
2200 7 7 7 0 795 800 481 794
2201 7 7 7 0 796 799 800 795
2202 7 7 7 0 797 798 799 796
2203 7 7 7 0 733 483 798 797
2204 7 7 7 0 481 800 967 962
2205 7 7 7 0 800 799 966 967
2206 7 7 7 0 799 798 965 966
2207 7 7 7 0 798 483 963 965
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*set,_npilot,1122
_npilot839=_npilot
type,tid
mat ,cid
real,cid
tshape,pilo
en,2208,_npilot
tshapeDown in the Solution part of the input file is where the displacements are applied to those two pilot nodes:
d,1121,ux,0.
d,1121,uy,0.
d,1121,uz,0.
d,1121,rotx,0.
d,1122,uy,0.
d,1122,uz,0.
d,1122,rotx,0.Good Luck!
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