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[motoyama]

Hi everyone,

I simulate two blade wind turbine with MRF.

but as rotational speed 'omega' increase, torque also increase.

so there is no peak on power coefficient.

How can I calculate it?

[Keyur Kanade]

Hi, 

How are you calculating torque?

[Keyur Kanade]

Hi

How are you calculating torque? Please give more details. Please insert some images and explain the problem. 

In general, you can do following to calculate torque. 

Please follow the steps below:

 

Regards,

Keyur

 

[Keyur Kanade]

Sorry post is giving some error to me. 

Please follow the steps below:
1) Click “Report → Force” to open the Force Reports panel

[Keyur Kanade]

2) In “Options”, select “Moments”

[Keyur Kanade]

3) Enter the coordinates of the center point of the rotation for “Moment Center” and the axis at “Moment
Axis”

[Keyur Kanade]

4) Select the Wall Zones

[Keyur Kanade]

that will serve as the plane of rotation from where the torque will be calculated

5) “Print” will show the results in the Console Window

[Keyur Kanade]

I am really sorry, I am getting some errors while posting it. May be some maintenance work is going on. 

Hope you can read these posts. 

Regards,

Keyur

[motoyama]

I know the procedure.

but I've already checked the reference values, no problem.

and moment itself converged.

but when rotating speed increase, the torque also increase.

anyone can help?

[Amine Ben Hadj Ali]

Your torque is constant from the plot. Can you please add some more information here? If there is a linear momentum then the torque will change even at constant angular velocity.

[motoyama]

Hi Amine, 

thanks for your reply.

below is example of angular velocity and torque and Cp values

what do you want else?

[Rob]

OK, why should torque be the same for different speeds? Ie, what is the definition? 

[motoyama]

Hi , rwoolhou

the torque value means half of the moment that i calculate

well, I think torque is not same as for different speeds.

from the tip speed ratio, there should be a Cp peak.

 

[motoyama]

I add the data.

[Rob]

I'm not sure I understand.  If you expect the torque to change with speed, what is the problem? 

[motoyama]

the problem is that torque increase and decrease as the rotational speed increase.

so Cp=torque x omega should have peak.

but this data shows torque only increases but not decrease. 

[Amine Ben Hadj Ali]

From the data you are mentioning I do only detect  single trend: torque is increasing as the angular velocity is increasing (due to linear mometum). So now: What is the problem?

[motoyama]

Hi Amine

I searched the similar examples

please refer below

https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/cfx/160097-problem-torque-calculation.html

 

 

[Rob]

That's not the problem, you need to define & explain why you think your answer is wrong. As you've read through the whole of that thread, have you also found the same problem with a finer & much finer mesh? 

Note, as ANSYS staff we can't download and/or open project files. 

[Tarun mutyam Pichikala]

I’m doing analysis on Archimedes wind turbine and I am getting the same issue that is torque is increasing with rotational speed of the turbine. please tell me how to resolve this issue.