-
-
November 18, 2021 at 4:55 pmNuwadSubscriber
Hello, I have been tracking down an unknow cause of deformation in a Static Structural Analysis where I would expect displacement. After some work I have determined it to be a result of the APDL stabilization command. I have set up a basic model to demonstrate my issue.
The actual model's material is a lot more complex and non-linear but the overall concept is the same: I am using blocks to change the shape of a material. The material is represented by the top meshed body in this image
November 18, 2021 at 5:03 pmNuwadSubscriberTo add to my confusion when I look at the solver output after running an a model I see this message :
Material number 7 (used by element 14360) should normally have at least Material number 7 (used by element 14105) should normally have at least one MP or one TB type command associated with it. Output of energy by one MP or one TB type command associated with it. Output of energy by material may not be available.
Is this the reason I am not able to probe the stabilization energy? When I try to find the element it is not in my model in-fact the model has less than 14360 elements? All discussions about this Warning seem to say to ignore it, I just can not
What are MP and TB type commands?
December 1, 2021 at 7:30 pmSheldon ImaokaAnsys Employee
Review the Mechanical help documentation for "Stabilization Energy" - it is an output available after you solve for a converged substep. You can compare this to Strain Energy, for example. The Stabilization Energy is the artificial energy associated with work done by the dampers placed on all nodes for Nonlinear Stabilization. If these values are large, you need to decrease the stabilization parameter in the "Analysis Settings" branch.
Nonlinear Stabilization adds dampers to each node in your model. If the damping value is 'high', then the nodes will resist motion, so that explains why your part is behaving as such with nonlinear stabilization on - most likely, even the default value is too high, so it should be lowered. It is dependent on your model parameters, so it may take a little trial and error to include just enough stabilization to get a converged result but not too much to adversely affect your result. (We typically don't have a feel for the magnitude of damping coefficient, for example, so that is why it can be a trial-and-error process.)
An alternative is to put a low gravity field to put the piece towards the moving plate. If you have nothing constraining the piece, it may undergo rigid-body motion, but having a weak acceleration field (like gravity) pushing the piece towards the rigid plate can help keep all parts touching each other. (In a static analysis, you can't solve for situations undergoing rigid-body motion since that's a singular matrix and no unique solution.) I'm not sure if that is the cause of your error but just thought I'd mention it.
FYI, the warning message you cited in your second post can be ignored. TB and MP commands are APDL commands used to define material properties, but in this case, special elements (such as those used to represent boundary conditions or contact) may be present but don't need to have material property definition - the warning is just to let the user know that some elements have no material definition, which is usually fine for such cases.
Regards Sheldon
December 2, 2021 at 5:56 pmNuwadSubscriberyou are correct stabilization was decreased and the unexpected deformation was minimized. Also, interestingly enough probing # contacting (in the actual model) showed that the material displaces after number contacting changes to 1 which is exactly as expected. Implementing this in the actual complicated model involved increasing the number of steps but still worked. I have high hopes of success.
I have (in the past) implemented an "artificial" gravity field, I did and do not understand what this will actually do. What does it add to the solver or can you briefly explain this idea a little for me?
December 2, 2021 at 6:02 pmSheldon ImaokaAnsys Employee
In your case, you have a rigid plate that is moving vertically. Are there any boundary conditions applied on your meshed rectangular material? If not, the part is unconstrained, so it can move in the positive vertical (y-axis) direction with a tiny amount of force. By putting a small acceleration field ('gravity'), the piece is continually pushed against the small block, so it remains in contact.
In a static analysis, we should not have an unconstrained part. Having a load, such as gravity, acting in the downward direction, helps to ensure that all parts are in contact with each other and not experiencing rigid-body motion.
Regards Sheldon
Viewing 4 reply threads- The topic ‘The effect of Stabilization? How to account for or eliminate undesired deformation.’ is closed to new replies.
Ansys Innovation SpaceTrending discussions- How to apply Compression-only Support?
- At least one body has been found to have only 1 element in at least 2 directions
- Error when opening saved Workbench project
- Geometric stiffness matrix for solid elements
- Script Error Code:800a000d
- Timestep range set for animation export
- Image to file in Mechanical is bugged and does not show text
- Elastic limit load, Elastic-plastic limit load
- Element has excessive thickness change, distortion, is turning inside out
Top Contributors-
1727
-
630
-
599
-
591
-
366
Top Rated Tags© 2025 Copyright ANSYS, Inc. All rights reserved.
Ansys does not support the usage of unauthorized Ansys software. Please visit www.ansys.com to obtain an official distribution.
-
The Ansys Learning Forum is a public forum. You are prohibited from providing (i) information that is confidential to You, your employer, or any third party, (ii) Personal Data or individually identifiable health information, (iii) any information that is U.S. Government Classified, Controlled Unclassified Information, International Traffic in Arms Regulators (ITAR) or Export Administration Regulators (EAR) controlled or otherwise have been determined by the United States Government or by a foreign government to require protection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national security, or (iv) topics or information restricted by the People's Republic of China data protection and privacy laws.