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harmonic response-damping

    • Samuele Luigetti
      Subscriber

      hello everybody

      i'm doing harmonic response of a structure. I set a constant structural damping coefficient, but appears the message "the system is solved without damping", and i do not understand why since there is damping in effect.

    • Erik Kostson
      Ansys Employee

      Hi

      As long as you can see the effect of damping in the results (reduced peaks around resonance) and that it is different compared to without damping, that is the most important (the warning message can then be neglected).

      All the best

      Erik

      • Samuele Luigetti
        Subscriber

        ok thanks but why it appears?

    • peteroznewman
      Subscriber

      Was the Harmonic Response a stand alone analysis or was there an upstream Modal analysis Solution cell linked to the setup cell of the Harmonic Response creating a MSUP Harmonic Response analysis?

      Do you have any elements such as springs or bushings in the model that included damping?

      • Samuele Luigetti
        Subscriber

        Hi peter, it's MSUP analysis, not stand-alone. I have springs, but without damping, only with stiffness.

    • peteroznewman
      Subscriber

      What version of Ansys are you running?

      In Ansys 2019, Structural Damping was not supported for MSUP Harmonic Response.

      In Ansys 2022, Structural Damping is supported for MSUP Harmonic Response.

      • Samuele Luigetti
        Subscriber

        2022 r1

    • peteroznewman
      Subscriber

      So in 2019 in a MSUP Harmonic Response, there was some code to warn you that if Constant Structural Damping was the only damping then the warning message was "system is solved without damping".

      Then in 2022, they support Constant Structural Damping. Is it possible that they forgot to delete the code that issues the warning message?  Maybe.

      I like Erik's suggestion, solve once with 0.0 Structural Damping and solve again with a 0.1 Structural Damping and see if the magnitude of the peak response is reduced.

      • Samuele Luigetti
        Subscriber

        yes i tried two different coefficient and the response is different, so the damping is on

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