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Component fatigue behaviour

    • Andrei Ancuta
      Subscriber

      Hello,

      I am playing with a parametrical optimisation. The objective function is reducing the mass, and all the contraints are regarding the lifetime. The min lifetime that i want is 25.000. This optimisation is about a structural steel component.

      The model have geometrical singularities (witch are also making a contact), so, from this point of view i decided that i should estimate the lifetime using strain-life parameters ( and i think is not very bad because 25.000 is aproximative in the limits of low cycle fatigue).

      I am using the default strain-life parameters of structural steel

      It is clear that i need to define the plasticity of the material. I had choose the multilinear isotropic hardening approach, but it does not have default values, so i needed to chose them from literature.

      So, the problem is that i do not have any ideea if the strain stress curve should be the engineering one or the real one. (or even a mixture, the engineering strain and the real stress).

      I think the FEM approach should have the real curves and characteristics of the material...but i am not sure if the default values for strain-life parameters are real or engineering ones. 

      It is also for the first time when i see how is defined in ansys the low cycle fatigue behaviour.

      I tried a lot of combinations on a cube model but i did not saw anything realistic.

      I think the strain-life parameters are not defined in accordance with the real curve that i found in literature, maybe this is the problem and it can be for choosing a wrong material to read about(i searched for S275)

    • Lydia
      Ansys Employee

      Hello Andrei,

      If I understand correctly your problem is how to define the strain stress curve for the plasticity model. You can have a look at this course Defining a Multilinear Hardening Plasticity Model | Ansys Courses which explains all the steps that need to be followed.   

      • Oak Mound
        Subscriber

        [quote]

        Hello Andrei,

        If I understand correctly your problem is how to define the strain stress curve for the plasticity model. You can have a look at this course Defining a Multilinear Hardening Plasticity Model | Ansys Coursesrocket bot royale which explains all the steps that need to be followed.   

        [/quote]

        This means the material deforms irreversibly and does not return to its original shape and size, even when the load is removed, right?

        • Lydia
          Ansys Employee

          Yes, this is the definition of plasticity

    • danielshaw
      Ansys Employee

      Andrei:

      If you are using the Mechanical Fatigue Tool (FT) you should not use an elastic-plastic material model.  The FT performs StrainLife (EN) fatigue using elastically calculated stresses and the Neuber elastic-plastic correction method.  It does not use FE calculated plastic strains.

    • Lydia
      Ansys Employee
      You can also have a look at this thread /forum/forums/topic/elasto-plastic-curve-and-multilinear-isotropic-hardening/
    • Andrei Ancuta
      Subscriber

      Thank you very much for all this informations, is more than enought!
      Thank you very much again!

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