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September 23, 2024 at 6:00 am
naveedullah
SubscriberHi,
Any member knows about the model used for the analysis of the fluid behavior and heat / mass transfer characteristics when water is sprayed inside a pipe with flowing Ammonia, using CFD.
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September 23, 2024 at 9:20 am
Rob
Forum ModeratorYes.Â
However, it's not simple and you need to define the modelling goals before starting to work on the project: the goals will determine the most suitable models.Â
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September 24, 2024 at 12:22 am
naveedullah
SubscriberThe main Goals are optimization of the mass flux and heat transfer coefficient, in the ammonia-water absorption process.
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September 24, 2024 at 9:01 am
Rob
Forum ModeratorOK, and as the water is being sprayed can you use DPM? Review the model approach in the User's and Theory Guides.Â
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September 26, 2024 at 5:38 am
naveedullah
SubscriberThank you Rob, for the hint. I was also of the same opinion based on some literature study. But can we use two models for the complete analysis, DPM for sprayed water through nozzle and Eulerian for Ammonia in the pipe??
I mean, DPM for Injection and Eulerian for Absorption.Â
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September 26, 2024 at 2:14 pm
Rob
Forum ModeratorEuler in the above context is a multiphase model - as opposed to Euler flow which is the physics name for the continuous flow.Â
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October 29, 2024 at 8:28 am
naveedullah
SubscriberHow can we define chemical reactions in species transport in multiphase modeling?
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October 29, 2024 at 2:13 pm
Rob
Forum ModeratorPhase interaction if it's between phases, or species mixture if the reaction is in one or other phases. Don't forget to check the formation enthalpy as that includes latent heat.Â
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November 19, 2024 at 6:17 am
naveedullah
SubscriberThank you, I can now use species transport to define the chemical reaction, by making a mixture template of the species. The chemical reaction is NH3​+H2​O↔NH4+​ + OH−
Now the question is how can I add the Ammonium Ion to the fluent database? Should I use an arbitrary material and change its properties as per the Ammonium ion?
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November 19, 2024 at 9:28 am
Rob
Forum ModeratorYes, just alter something and then click "no" to overwrite if it's a material you want to keep. Check the diffusivity value in the Fluent mixture(s) as the default is usually for gases: liquid diffusivities tend to be 1e-8 to 1e-10 ish.Â
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January 23, 2025 at 6:53 am
naveedullah
SubscriberI am using the Arrhenius reaction for NH3 + H2O>>>NH4OH, with activation energy as 1e+7, the pre-exponential factor of 1e+8, and temperature exponent as 0.Â
My question is since the reaction is exothermic with a change in enthalpy of -46.16 KJ/mol, but when I look at the temperature contour of the mixture, the temperature rises up to the water temperature only (280K) and not beyond. Is this due to some latent heat of the water droplets in the discrete phase or something else? Ammonia temperature is 278K and water droplets have 280K.
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January 23, 2025 at 9:15 am
Rob
Forum ModeratorIs the reaction occurring? Ie how do the contours of products look?Â
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January 24, 2025 at 1:15 am
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January 24, 2025 at 9:49 am
Rob
Forum ModeratorThat's the droplet concentration. How does the gas phase look?Â
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January 26, 2025 at 9:28 am
naveedullah
SubscriberThis looks the product concentration, which is zero at the inlet. Due to the ammonia-water interaction, it increases as shown in the contour.
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