About pitching moment force of plate

- June 11, 2021 at 9:34 am
  
  Iwashita
  Subscriber
  
  I am investigating the aerodynamic force of a flat plate.
  The lift was the same as the theoretical value, but the pitching moment was twice the theoretical value.
  The analysis conditions are as follows. This is 2D model.
  General-Pressure Based, Time: transient
  Viscous model: k-omega SST
  Fluid: Air
  plate:B=150mm,D=1mm (center:X=0, Y=0)
  U=1.5~6m/sec, attack angle:-16deg~+16deg
  I also performed an analysis in which the plate was forcibly vibrated using UDF, to reproduce theodorsen function, but the tendency for the pitching moment to double was the same.
  I know Cm=M/(1/2*ρU^2*B^2) Please help me.
- June 11, 2021 at 10:02 am
  
  aitor.amatriain
  Subscriber
  
  You are obtaining the moment at (0,0), while it should be at (-B/4,0) (aerodynamic center)
- June 11, 2021 at 11:01 am
  
  Iwashita
  Subscriber
  
  >Aitor
  Thank you for your answer.
  But it is not my target, because this analysis is not for airplane but for bridge deck.
  We should obtain the moment of center of deck. By the way, in case of moment at (-B/4,0), it was less than 1/4 of the theoretical value.
  I'm sorry for the lack of my explanation.
- October 29, 2021 at 12:01 pm
  
  Iwashita
  Subscriber
  
  I resolved this problem.
  The reason why moment is incorrrect is following picture.
  Red line: inlet
  Blue line: outlet
  Black line: pressure far field(wall, shear stress=0)
  When the inlet flow includes attack angle, Left side causes wrong result, and Right side can get correct result.
- October 29, 2021 at 1:38 pm
  
  Rob
  Forum Moderator
  
  Thanks for sharing. Mixing far field with any other boundary tends to cause problems. Setting the whole outer boundary as farfield with the correct vector would have worked too.
- October 29, 2021 at 2:43 pm
  
  Iwashita
  Subscriber
  
  Here is my result. (Exp: experiment, Ana: analysis)
  I used inlet boundary condition and adjusted magnitude and direction.
  Thank you for your information Mr. Rob.
  - November 10, 2022 at 7:32 am
    
    Farrukh Malik
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