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1-way FSI Not Capturing Follower Pressure Behavior on Deformed Structure

    • hossein.hashemidehaghi
      Subscriber
      Hi everyone,
      I'm working on a one-way FSI simulation in ANSYS Workbench 2024R2 using Fluent + Mechanical, and I'm running into an issue related to how the imported pressure load is applied on a soft cylindrical structure (elastomer material) conveying internal flow (incompressible fluid).
      Setup overview:
      The structure is fixed at one end, free at the other like a simple cantilevered beam, with internal channels.
      Pressure and flowrate from Fluent are based on experimental values.
      In theory (and experiment), the internal pressure induces a tensile follower force along the axis, but this is balanced by a net normal follower pressure distribution along the length, resulting in a pure bending-type deformation (like an arc).
       
      For one-way FSI, I was fully aware that it doesn't update fluid pressure after deformation, so I wasn’t expecting accuracy. However, I still expected the pressure-induced forces to act perpendicular to the deforming structure during solution, producing an arc-like bending similar to the correct behavior. In the simulation results, the deformation instead resembles the case where the tensile follower force is unbalanced, suggesting the pressure acts on the initial (undeformed) geometry and not the deformed surface. This leads to an axial tension-dominated shape, which does not match my theoretical case where follower forces are balanced (check out the images below).
       
      Mechanical settings for importing load from Fluent:
      Large Deflection: ON
      Mesh nonlinear adaptivity: ON
      Apply to Initial Mesh: NO
      Loaded Area: Deformed
       
      My expectation was that this should apply the imported Fluent pressure to the deformed mesh during solution, but the results suggest otherwise.
       
      Do these settings actually make Mechanical apply the pressure perpendicular like a follower perpendicular load during solution, or is it actually only applied on the initial shape?
      Are there any workarounds to better approximate this in one-way FSI?

      The expected  deformation:

      The incorrect deflection:


      The observed simulation result:



      The imported load settings: 



      Let me know if you’d like a simpler explanation
      Thanks!

    • peteroznewman
      Subscriber

      I have seen simulations of soft actuators that deform by increasing a uniform pressure on the internal chambers. These were entirely done in the Mechanical Static Structural solver and did not need any fluid flow to see the deformation of the actuator.
      From this paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-75346-5

      Have you considered not using Fluent?  What benefit does Fluent provide compared with applying a uniform pressure in a mechanical load?

    • hossein.hashemidehaghi
      Subscriber

      Hi Peter,

      Thanks for your response. I’ll take a look at the article you mentioned. In my case, I’m looking at a specific fluid flow that creates a complex pressure and shear distribution. It’s important to map these stresses to the channel wall to see how the structure deforms.

      My question is: does the approach I described lead to a follower-type stress distribution during the solution, similar to how a constant pressure can be applied normal to a surface in Mechanical?

    • Erik Kostson
      Ansys Employee

      Hi

      Also look at fully coupled 2 way FSI - often for complex scenarios this can be more representative of the physics and accurate/

      All the best

      Erik

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