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Simulation Error with Insufficient supports

    • yappyap
      Subscriber

      Hi all!

      Here is my current model:

      It is a brace with 6 cylinders in place to mimic screw attachments as seen in the following picture.

    • yappyap
      Subscriber
      I have attached my file here and would appreciate any help. Thank you.n
    • 1shan
      Ansys Employee
      ,nLooking at the picture it looks like a leg brace, with tension cables which provide grip for attachment. You have added a contact between screws and the brace but you have not fixed the brace itself. In reality it is the contact between the leg and brace which prevents it from moving right? Unless you provide some king of constraint to the brace itself surface, it will cause rigid body motion errors. Also, the cylinders look too small and are not the object of interest (i assume). These would cause meshing difficulties, so you could delete them and add forces directly to 'hole' edges. Unfortunately ANSYS staff are not permitted to download attachments but feel free to attach images for description.nRegards,nIshan.n
    • yappyap
      Subscriber
      Hello Array,nThis is a body brace and unfortunately we do not have the patient's body model to attach as the constraint.nThe cylinders are just to mimic the screws. We would like to analyze if the forces acting on the straps (and therefore the screws) would cause any failure on the brace when used in the long run. Is it still realistic to just apply a force on the 'Hole' edges?nIn addition, I CADed out an M4 by 5 screw on the brace last night to replace the cylinders. However, i cant seem to create a hole on the surface of the brace. I couldn't use the hole option in spaceclaim for whatever reason??nThus, I drew out a screw and duplicated it. nI used 1 of it to subtract from the brace, expecting to get a hole out of it. However, since it was a surface brace with triangulations, I had to delete some triangles that appear after the subtraction. I do not know why it only appears on one side of the brace and not the other.nBut even after deleting, the existing triangles merged with the circle to produce something like this:nnHowever, some other circles look perfectly shaped like this:nnnHow can i fix this?.Thank you.n
    • 1shan
      Ansys Employee
      ,nYou could add a plane in space claim (normal to axis of the screw), draw a circle on it and use the pull option to remove material and create a hole in the brace. To constrain the brace what you could do is add a cylindrical support at 3 holes (edges) and apply forces to the remaining holes. If the solver still gives you a rigid body motion error add cylindrical joint to one more hole (4 in total). Let me know if this works.nRegards,nIshan.n
    • yappyap
      Subscriber
      Hi Array,nYour previous comment mentioned to add forces directly to 'hole' edges.  I removed the cylinders entirely and tried to add forces directly to the edges like you suggested. The same unconstrained error appears.nIs there an email i can share my file with you? I'm at my wits end as it has been 2+ weeks and the same error keeps appearing.nI just wish to apply forces on the holes to replicate the forces acting by the straps.n
    • 1shan
      Ansys Employee
      ,nCould you add an image which clearly shows the support used at each holes and the forces you have added? Have you checked the mesh, whether it is following the edges across the holes? in the 2nd and 3rd image I see a bolt head merged with a surface. That doesn't look right. Could you create a clean geometry with just the brace and holes. It would also help if you do a normal modal analysis to check if the constraints are adequate and there is no rigid body motion. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to share our emails.nRegards,nIshan.n
    • yappyap
      Subscriber
      should i be using fixed supports on the holes? i tried to use remote displacements on the left holes to have more control of the DOFs, then applied a remote force on the right side to hopefully get an action-reaction force. It didnt work. I then used Fixed Supports on the left holes and applied force on one side. It didnt work too.nShould my remote points be Deformable or Rigid? I am using rigid now.nI have reduced the size of my mesh around the holes using body and edge sizing:nnn
    • 1shan
      Ansys Employee
      HelloArray,nThe distorted elements near the holes might be creating the problem (the mesh is bad around the hole). Use shared topology to get rid of the small thin surface edges near the holes. Also use fixed support at first, and when the error is resolved use remote displacement. You could check this for using shared topologyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JhDn0V26l0.nRegards,Ishann
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