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Negative loss imported into steady-state thermal

    • Bingjian
      Subscriber

      Hi all,

      I am a beginner of thermal analysis of induction machines. When I import load into steady-state thermal, I find some coil losses are negative which looks wrong. I am wondering why those losses are negative and how to fix it.

      Then, I set 2 convections, one is the outer surface of the stator and another one is all edges of the air area. Ambient temperatures are both 22 degree, film coefficients are both 150 W/?·?. After setting source end time of imported generation to 3000s, and also the analysis settings. Finally, I got a temperature plot which looks wrong, because the temperature is much lower than I thought. And another question is why the hotspots are always in same coils when I run the animation of temperature graph? Do you have any idea for the temperature plot?


      Thanks in advance.


      Kind regards,

      Bing

    • Rahul Kumbhar
      Ansys Employee
      Can you try using linear mesh? Also in the thin bodies if the temperature gradient is high, you should have more number of elements in the thickness.n
    • Bingjian
      Subscriber
      Thank you very much. The problem is about thickness, n
    • Bingjian
      Subscriber
      Hi, I tried to set the thickness of this 2D model of motor, but some losses are still negative and they are still make negative temperature effects.n
    • Bingjian
      Subscriber
      Hi all, nI set the thickness of this 2D model and made mesh much finer, but the losses are still negative and make negative influences on the temperature plot. I watched some tutorials where the motor losses are all positive. I am wondering why these losses in my model are negative and how to fix it. It is probably caused by some settings in EM but I am still geting stuck with it.nnAny ideas are welcome.nnRegards,nBingjia
    • Bingjian
      Subscriber
      Dear all,nThe problem is solved by changing motionsetup and analysis settings in EM.n
    • Bingjian
      Subscriber
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    • Emmanuel001
      Subscriber
      Hello all, please I am interested on how you solved this issue cos I am currently facing the same problem. I saw where it is said that the problem will be solved by changing the motion setup and analysis settings. Please, can anyone explain this to me. Will the analysis be a parametric type? What exactly can be done to the analysis settings? I am really lost. Any help or suggestion is highly welcomen
    • NuelWeta
      Subscriber
      I have done all the instructions listed here but i am not yet satisfied with the temp results. I have attached the settings both in maxwell and ansys mechanicalnn
    • NuelWeta
      Subscriber
      my settings in maxwell are attached herenn
    • NuelWeta
      Subscriber
      convection BC and generated imported heatnn
    • Rahul Kumbhar
      Ansys Employee
      I would encourage you help the peers with similar issue. Feel free to add your comment.n
    • NuelWeta
      Subscriber
      Good morning all.nI modeled my motor in maxwell, got the necessary losses. The analysis is on no load condition. I exported the model to Ansys for thermal analysis and applied a convective boundary condition on all the 68 edges of the modelnnnnnnnnnnnnn. But temperature results i got from ansys isnt the true reflection of what i did in maxwell. The temperature variation is around 22 deg C which is wrong. Also, I couldnt see the imported loses(table) in ansys mechanical. I know something is wrong, please i need your help. i have attached series of images to further explain what i did both in ansys and maxwell. Thanksnnn
    • NuelWeta
      Subscriber
      Good morning all.nI modeled my motor in maxwell, got the necessary losses. The analysis is on no load condition. I exported the model to Ansys for thermal analysis and applied a convective boundary condition on all the 68 edges of the modelnnnnnnnnnnnnn. But temperature results i got from ansys isnt the true reflection of what i did in maxwell. The temperature variation is around 22 deg C which is wrong. Also, I couldnt see the imported loses(table) in ansys mechanical. I know something is wrong, please i need your help. i have attached series of images to further explain what i did both in ansys and maxwell. Thanksnnn
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