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maximum rotor speed

    • Christian10
      Subscriber

      It is possible to determine the maximum rotor speed of a machine with the static mechanical analysis. If so, what do I have to set? I can't find any..

      Best regards,
      Christian10

    • Wenlong
      Ansys Employee

      Hi Christian,


      What are the constraint conditions to determine the max rotor speed? If you can share more information about the physical problem it can let others better help you. 


      This is a rotordynamics analysis and this document can help you get started. https://ansyshelp.ansys.com/account/secured?returnurl=/Views/Secured/corp/v201/en/ans_rot/Hlp_G_ROTINTRO.html


      Let me know if you have more questions. 


      Regards,


      Wenlong


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      If you have trouble opening the links I attached, please see the first useful link below


       


       



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    • Christian10
      Subscriber

      Hello Wenlong, thanks for your message, unfortunately I cannot open your link, because I only have the "student license"... 


      Attached I send you a picture, where you can see the my Rotor. As settings I have chosen two different materials, for rotor - steel and for the magnet neodymium. 


      I can tell you the following about the geometrical boundary conditions. In point A (picture) there should be a boundary condition which prevents the displacement in vertical direction, but I have not found the right one yet. In point B there should be a frictional contact point between magnet & rotor. But Ansys throws me a mistake if the coefficient of static friction is above 0.2... In point C I have chosen a fixed bearing on the surface. Otherwise I have chosen a rotation speed as inertial load, which rotates around the own axis of the rotor. 


      The maximum rotational speed would have to be adjustable somehow and would inevitably depend on the material yield point of the rotor, i.e. steel. 


      Now I hope that you can get a better picture with this information. Unfortunately, I am still quite new to Ansys and maybe I have explained it in an incomprehensible way.


       



       

    • peteroznewman
      Subscriber
    • Wenlong
      Ansys Employee

      Hi Christian,


      Thanks for your explanation. 


      If you want to involve frictional contact, which is nonlinear, then you cannot run a rotordynamics because only linear behavior is allowed in rotordyanmics . The transient Structural Analysis will be the choice for you in this case. 


      I don't think Static Structural Analysis is suitable for your case because the dynamic effect needs to be considered.


      Your error (when COF>0.2) is probably due to a convergence issue. Please make sure you turned on large deflection and have defined enough substeps. Also, remember to turn on the Coriolis effect in "rotordynamics controls". 



      If you have further questions, please feel free to follow up.


      Regards,


      Wenlong


       


       

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