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April 20, 2020 at 2:31 pm
GuusWezel
SubscriberDear,
I, as a completely new guy to Ansys, started building up a model in fluent to simulate the slurry (fluid) deposition through an extruder. First I started to get to know the software via the tutorials in VOF modelling and some overall tutorials. Then I started with a 2D-model to try it out in a simplified model. After this gave me some decent results, I started rebuilding this model in 3d with the same parameters. But when I run this, the calculated VOF surface doesn't look realistic at all with a slurry being so vicious. Especially compared to the 2D-model. And next to that it gives the floating-point error after around 40 iterations. In the attachments of this topic, I uploaded one file containing the two summary files of the model. First, the 2D model summary is given, behind that the 3D model summary
Would be pleased to have someone that could look at it and give me some tips on what to do next to get some valid results.
Sincerely,
Guus -
April 20, 2020 at 4:54 pm
DrAmine
Ansys Employeeas an Ansys employee I do not download attachments. Slow settling or no settling slurries can be modeled as non Newtonian fluid. If you require sir as surrounding then simple two phase flow with the slurry with adjusted properties and non Newtonian viscosity -
April 20, 2020 at 4:56 pm
DrAmine
Ansys Employeethat was general hint without looking into your particular case. Add some more information regarding your 3d problem -
April 21, 2020 at 12:38 pm
GuusWezel
SubscriberDear Amine,
Thanks for your hint.
The 3D model now consists of a nozzle at a fixed distance above a substrate. The substrate is moving in one direction to model the slurry deposition during printing. To test the model, the slurry now just has a fixed viscosity of 1 pas/s, this will later be changed to a non Newtonian viscosity.
As a time step I use a function that changes the time step per iteration: IF(iter<=600, 1
*10**-(10-iter*0.01), 0.0001) with a total of 1700 iterations.
Down here I put the text I wrote the settings of the 3d model (the same as in the attachments).
Fluent
Version: 3d, dp, pbns, vof, lam, transient (3d, double precision, pressure-based, VOF, laminar, transient)
Release: 20.1.0
Title:
Models
  Model                       Settings                     Â
 Â
  Space                       3D                           Â
  Time                        Unsteady, 1st-Order Implicit Â
  Viscous                     Laminar                      Â
  Heat Transfer               Disabled                     Â
  Solidification and Melting  Disabled                     Â
  Species                     Disabled                     Â
  Coupled Dispersed Phase     Disabled                     Â
  NOx Pollutants              Disabled                     Â
  SOx Pollutants              Disabled                     Â
  Soot                        Disabled                     Â
  Mercury Pollutants          Disabled                     Â
  Structure                   Disabled                     Â
Material Properties
  Material: slurry (fluid)
     Property                       Units    Method    Value(s) Â
    Â
     Density                        kg/m3    constant  7260     Â
     Cp (Specific Heat)             j/kg-k   constant  1006.43  Â
     Thermal Conductivity           w/m-k    constant  0.0242   Â
     Viscosity                      kg/m-s   constant  1        Â
     Molecular Weight               kg/kmol  constant  28.966   Â
     Thermal Expansion Coefficient  1/k      constant  0        Â
     Speed of Sound                 m/s      none      #f       Â
  Material: air (fluid)
     Property                       Units    Method    Value(s)   Â
    Â
     Density                        kg/m3    constant  1.225      Â
     Cp (Specific Heat)             j/kg-k   constant  1006.43    Â
     Thermal Conductivity           w/m-k    constant  0.0242     Â
     Viscosity                      kg/m-s   constant  1.7894e-05 Â
     Molecular Weight               kg/kmol  constant  28.966     Â
     Thermal Expansion Coefficient  1/k      constant  0          Â
     Speed of Sound                 m/s      none      #f         Â
  Material: aluminium (solid)
     Property              Units   Method    Value(s) Â
    Â
     Density               kg/m3   constant  2719     Â
     Cp (Specific Heat)    j/kg-k  constant  871      Â
     Thermal Conductivity  w/m-k   constant  202.4    Â
Cell Zone Conditions
  Zones
     name   id  type  Â
    Â
     fluid  3   fluid Â
  Setup Conditions
     fluid
        Condition      Value Â
       Â
        Frame Motion?  no    Â
        Mesh Motion?   no    Â
Boundary Conditions
  Zones
     name             id  type            Â
    Â
     wall-fluid       1   wall            Â
     symmetry-plane   6   symmetry        Â
     pressure-outlet  7   pressure-outlet Â
     moving-wall      8   wall            Â
     velocity-inlet   9   velocity-inlet  Â
  Setup Conditions
     wall-fluid
        Condition                 Value                                  Â
       Â
        Wall Motion               0                                      Â
        Shear Boundary Condition  0                                      Â
        Contact Angles            (((constant . 2.0943948) (profile ))) Â
     symmetry-plane
        Condition  Value Â
       Â
     pressure-outlet
        Condition  Value Â
       Â
     moving-wall
        Condition                                           Value                                  Â
       Â
        Wall Motion                                         1                                      Â
        Shear Boundary Condition                            0                                      Â
        Define wall motion relative to adjacent cell zone?  yes                                    Â
        Velocity Magnitude (m/s)                            0.01                                   Â
        Contact Angles                                      (((constant . 1.5707963) (profile ))) Â
     velocity-inlet
        Condition                 Value Â
       Â
        Velocity Magnitude (m/s)  0.01  Â
Solver Settings
  Equations
     Equation         Solved Â
    Â
     Flow             yes    Â
     Volume Fraction  yes    Â
  Numerics
     Numeric                        Enabled Â
    Â
     Absolute Velocity Formulation  yes     Â
  Unsteady Calculation Parameters
                                                    Â
    Â
     Time Step (s)                  2.5118864e-09 Â
     Max. Iterations Per Time Step  20            Â
  Non-Iterative Solver Factors
     Variable         Max. Corrections  Correction Tolerance  Residual Tolerance  Relaxation Factor Â
    Â
     Pressure         10                0.25                  0.0001              1                 Â
     Momentum         5                 0.05                  0.0001              1                 Â
     Volume Fraction  5                 0.05                  0.0001              1                 Â
  Linear Solver
     Variable         Solver Type  Termination Criterion  Residual Reduction Tolerance Â
    Â
     Pressure         F-Cycle      0.1                                                  Â
     X-Momentum       Flexible     0.1                    0.7                          Â
     Y-Momentum       Flexible     0.1                    0.7                          Â
     Z-Momentum       Flexible     0.1                    0.7                          Â
     Volume Fraction  Flexible     0.1                    0.7                          Â
  Pressure-Velocity Coupling
     Parameter  Value           Â
    Â
     Type       Fractional Step Â
  Discretization Scheme
     Variable         Scheme      Â
    Â
     Pressure         PRESTO!     Â
     Momentum         QUICK       Â
     Volume Fraction  Compressive Â
  Solution Limits
     Quantity                   Limit Â
    Â
     Minimum Absolute Pressure  1     Â
     Maximum Absolute Pressure  5e+10 Â
     Minimum Temperature        1     Â
     Maximum Temperature        5000  Â
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I hope you now have a general idea of the problem and that you can help me further.
Sincerely,
Guus van Wezel
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April 21, 2020 at 12:42 pm
DrAmine
Ansys EmployeeWhat is now the problem?
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April 21, 2020 at 1:03 pm
GuusWezel
SubscriberDear Amine,
The problem is that the results of the 2D and 3D models are very different. Where the 2D model gives a realistic flow of the slurry, the 3D model does not give a realistic flow at all. This is shown in the figure below.
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Since the input parameters for both models are the same, I can't locate the problem within the model.
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Sincerely,
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Guus
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