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temperature loads – too much penetration and element turning upside down

    • shailesh.fulse
      Subscriber

      Hello, 

      I am doing an analysis of tubes under high tempratures (varying across length) as shown below. Tubes have some sliding connection to each other (sliding inner and sliding outer) and . They can expand vetically. Lateraly sliding parts have some gap, which allows some movement. Tubes are fixed at top. SMall tie 

         

       

      Inner sliding is bonded with one tube and outer sliding with adjuscent tube. I have created frictional contact between two sliding parts with very small friction (0.02), I have kept pinball radius also large so intial contact can be created. There is also few more friction contact which are close and can come in contact.

      Analysis settings are like following 

      But I am getting follwoing errors at first step.

      I have tried to change normal stiffness fraction but still not able to solve. I fixed few connection which is not correct situation but it was giving lot of penetration at few location and some frictional contact were not working.

      Mesh is fine at the contacts, but still I am getting this error. 

      How to fix this issue

       

    • Ashish Khemka
      Forum Moderator

      Hello,

      Do you have mid-side nodes for the mesh? Please check and see if you are using a programmed controlled mesh.

      Regards,

      Ashish Khemka

    • shailesh.fulse
      Subscriber

      Hello,

      There are no midside nodes. I have kepy element order linear for this.

    • Ashish Khemka
      Forum Moderator

      Hi Shailesh,

      Try using a mesh with mid-side nodes (program-controlled/ non-linear).

      Regards,

      Ashish Khemka

    • shailesh.fulse
      Subscriber

      Hi Ashish,

      I tried with Programme control mesh, the solution is not converging. It is bisecting in first iteration and then run turminates.

      Defromation of unconverged solution is also very high.  

      Solution not converged at time 5.E-03 (load step 1 substep 1).         
        Run terminated. 

    • Ashish Khemka
      Forum Moderator

      Shailesh, for the frictional contacts: Turn off small sliding, and reduce pinball radius (current one looks too large). Check the initial contact status: Does the model has penetration?

      If yes, then you will need to resolve it first (setting the first step to resolve the penetration), then importing the temperatures and then allowing for sliding.

      If not, then try to use a coarse mesh and try to debug why the model is not converging. You may try using Newton Raphson Residuals as well to look for locations of force imbalance.

      9.6.8.3. Addressing Non-Convergence

      Regards,

      Ashish Khemka

       

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