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Discovery Live : Strange results for a three-body car simulation

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      Hi,


      I've got strange results with a three body car simulation with ANSYS DISCOVERY LIVE.


      I'm seeing a HUGE flow separation next to the rear windshield, which should not happen since there's a really low angle, ( Honda civic sedan 1996 )


      I didn't have seen this with my old openfoam setup, neither with a R17 Fluent ( Not my license, i can't do it again )


      I don't have pictures now, but i'll post them asap.


       


      Do you know if there's a way to increase the cell number ? I've already maxed out the precision slider, and i can't visualise the cells size.


      Or maybe it has to be a strange boundary condition


      By the way, the car is 1:1 scale, wind speed is 40 m/s


       


      I've attached a picture of what i'm seeing.  The flow separation should have been really small compared to what i'm seeing.


       


      Any advice ?


       


      Thanks,

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      Here's a picture of what i'm seeing with a 1:1 scale, 10m/s 20°air 1013hPa.
      This is clearly wrong !


       

    • Naresh Patre
      Ansys Employee

      Hello pierro42 


      Discovery Live results are largely affected by the GPU memory of the graphics card. What is the memory of your graphics card?


      Can you try reducing the extents of the outer domain and check the results again?


      Lastly, Discovery Live is really not intended to measure the accuracy of results by comparing them with other tools. Rather, it is better suited to understand the trend of results by changing different parameters like geometry, boundary conditions, etc which will help you to get an initial guess of results to meet your simulation objective. You can later use Discovery AIM to get accurate results.

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      Hi !


       


      This test was done with a RTX 2070 (8Go GDDR6 RAM) with latest CUDA drivers.


      I've tried with a bigger volume to let the vortices fully develop, and with a smaller one to virtually increase the cell count per cm. The result was the same.


       


      The goal here was to show the impact of a rear spoiler. But the simulation doesnt give any airflow in the region where the wing should be.


      So in this case i can't use Discovery Live to give a tendency.


       


      I think i should try Discovery AIM, but i wasn't sure what were the difference between both for aerodynamics tests.


       


      Thanks,

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      I've done a new simulation using AIM.


       


      LICENSE MANAGER: Not enough ANSYS Neutral Parallel licenses 8/2.


      Exception from ServeOneRequest: Low-level communication error -19: Connection is dirty


       


      My computer is a fresh W10 install ( less than a month ) and was free of any ANSYS product.
      Firewall is disabled, and AIM has Admin privileges.

      This is upsetting...


       

    • Naresh Patre
      Ansys Employee

      Someone with knowledge about licensing should be able to comment on the license issue that you are facing.

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      Hi,


      for Discovery AIM, it worked with 1 core only vs 8 available. But i had troubles importing the Discovery Live case. I'll figure it out later.

      Could you check the formation of a buble on the back of a Ahmed Body for example ?


       


      It should look like this --> Ahmed_Body


       


      On my Ansys DISCOVERY LIV Esimulation, there is a separation as soon as there's the angle of the back plane.


       


      Have you done a model validation with Ahmed Body ?


       


      Thanks,

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

       Hi,


       


      See the article with now flow separations on ANSYS Fluent :


       


      https://moodle2.units.it/pluginfile.php/233403/mod_resource/content/2/Ahmed_Fluent_FULL.pdf


       


       

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      Anyone ?

    • DrAmine
      Ansys Employee

      What is now your question? We do not download attachments or read external links.

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      Hi,


      Sorry it's been a while.


      Here's what i'm getting with Ansys Live on the maximum fidelity :


       


      Ahmed's body


       


      Here's what i should get :


      Ahmed's body Ansys

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      So the question is : Can you help me to find what i've done wrong ?

      Thanks a lot !

    • senowm
      Subscriber

      check the fluid density

      cheers

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      Hi !


      Re should be around 4.5e6 for both simulations, to match real data.


      ρ=1.225


      u=40 m/s

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      Anyone ?

    • pierro42
      Subscriber

      Anyone ?

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