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Simulation of Tesla Turbine~~

    • Emily Chan
      Subscriber

      Hey guys, I am currently working on a project which was the simulation of tesla turbine. I was planning to calculate the speed and torque of the rotor of tesla turbine with an inlet flow with 1 Pa. Does anyone know how to "set up" the boundary condition for this by using Fluid Flow (Fluent)? Hope somebody could explain the theory to me~~ Much appreciate guys...


       


      PS: I have attached my IGS file below. 

    • Rob
      Forum Moderator

      You'll probably be able to use the moving reference frame for the rotation, but the problem will be linking the drag forces to the rotation rate. The problem you have is the rotation is caused by the flow, but as the rotation is established the drag also reduces until the system reaches equilibrium between rotation and supply velocity: you will probably need a UDF to work out all of the force balances (including bearings etc). 


      The basics are similar to the various compressor and turbine tutorials, the UDF will add a lot more complexity to the case. There are some other topics on here for wind turbines, they should give you some pointers for the UDF. 

    • Karthik Remella
      Administrator

      Hello Emily,


      Here are some video resources which might help you model your problem.


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_R_Ot5r_j0&index=5&list=PL0lZXwHtV6OmedTRo0xU5AFxCrtsSsHda


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plx99gVfwOA


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ_WjAlKQ3M&t=444s


      Please see if these video help you get started. Unfortunately, as ANSYS employees, we will not be able to download your geometry file. Please let us if you have any other specific questions.


      Thank you.


      Best Regards,


      Karthik


       

    • Emily Chan
      Subscriber

      Hi Karthik, I wish to upload my wbpj file here to let you guys take a look. But I cant, why?

    • Karthik Remella
      Administrator

      Hello Emily,


      You will not be able to upload your wbpj file here. You will need to archive it. Please go to 'File -> Archive' and generate the .wbpz file. You should be able to attach it. 


      However, as ANSYS employees, we will not be able to download and look at your model files. Perhaps someone outside can provide you some inputs after looking at the files. If you're looking for support from ANSYS employees, you might have to ask pin-pointed questions and provide adequate screenshots of your model so we are able to understand the issue. 


      Please review the following best practices before uploading your files.



      • Be efficient - As our community grows it is becoming more likely that you are not the first to ask this question. Please search before creating a new post.

      • Be clear - Provide supporting screenshots, error messages, and background information. No simulation files will be opened by ANSYS support engineers.

      • Be precise  - Please use the right tags to help our engineers find your question.

      • Be patient - Please allow three days for someone to get back to you.

      • Be helpful - Please help our community grow by answering others questions and telling your academic colleagues about this resource.


      I hope this helps.


      Best Regards,
      Karthik


       

    • raul.raghav
      Subscriber

      Emily, as Kremella mentioned, you would not be able to upload the .wbpj file. Please follow these directions to upload a workbench archive (.wbpz) file.

    • Dev _cfdnoob
      Subscriber

      Hey are you able to do this simulation I am doing the similar thing but in the fluent the residuals are getting diverged ( continuity residuals are going to 1e+05) 


       For meshing and geometry I followed this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD0nxctN_yw&t=4565s


       

    • Rob
      Forum Moderator

      Check the mesh quality and time step size: you're aiming for a Courant number under 1 to start with. From there also review the model dimensions (is it scaled correctly) and boundary conditions (are the numbers sensible). 


      If you post a few pictures of your model: mesh, velocity contours (before it diverges) we may be able to offer more specific advice. 

    • Dev _cfdnoob
      Subscriber

       Hey, I have uploaded the wbpz file in the google drive link. I am still getting divergence just after 25 iterations. I checked the CFL number and time step size is about 10^-7. (Ansys version is 15.0)


        https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eiRuBq6FRFz28nV-ZX0H_6VR1905OWPn/view?usp=sharing


       

    • Rob
      Forum Moderator

      I'd advise updating to R19.2   However, please can you post some images: staff can't download anything so only non staff can currently do anything. 

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