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[abhay mahar]

[Arwel Davies]

The following are two common reasons for this:

(1) mesh-based de-featuring of very small geometry and

(2) auto-rejection of contact with too-large of a gap.

 

[abhay mahar]

how to solve this defeaturing problem can you tell me

[peteroznewman]

Click on Mesh and in the Details window, Automatic Mesh Defeaturing is set to Yes. Change that to No.

[Rahul Kumbhar]

The reason is that you have a contact defined on that face and that face doesn't have any mesh since it defeatured away. Check the defeaturing tolerance, set the value such so that mesh can walk over unnecessary features and avoid higher mesh count but smaller than the features you want to capture properly like bolt holes, fillets etc. If you have few contacts, you can do visual inspection for contact with no mesh.

[abhay mahar]

i changed automatic mesh defeaturing to no  , but the result was same

 

[peteroznewman]

Set the variable "contactAllowEmpty" to 1 in order to allow the solution to proceed with an ANSYS warning which can be used to identify the offending contact pair(s) by reading the Solution Output. 

[Wokil bihar]

Would you plese tell me where can I find ContactAllowEmpty in ANSYS 2021 version?

[AmbarNaik13]

ArrayI am encountering similar problem. The message displayed is At least one contact pair or remote load has no elements in it. This may be due to mesh based defeaturing of the geometry. You may select the offending object via RMB on this warning in the Messages windowI implemented the suggestions that you have mentioned above regarding the use if variable. However the problem still persist. I deactivated the contacts and checked again. It still gives the error. I also deactivated remote loads, and it still didn't work.nA previous iteration of the same model worked perfectly fine.nn

[peteroznewman]

nStart with the previous iteration and update it with the changes needed to get to the current version. See if the problem returns or if you end up with a useful model.n

[AmbarNaik13]

nI followed your advice but the problem still persist. Could you please look into the model? I have attached it here.n

[peteroznewman]

nI opened your archive with ANSYS 2020 R1 but I don't know which version you are using. Please reply with the version you are using.nI notice this warning in your model.nWhen I follow those directions, I can find some Coordinate Systems that have lost scoping. I don't know if that has anything to do with your problem, since those are suppressed.nLater, I will go and try to solve your model in ANSYS 2020 R1 and look for the problem you reported.n

[AmbarNaik13]

Hi. I am using ANSYS 2019 R2.n

[AmbarNaik13]

It shows that warning message because the geometry was changed by me. The co-ordinates system were earlier defined by geometry selection. Before sending you the document, I defined the co-ordinate system using axes. Some of the co-ordinate systems are actually suppressed by me, as the they and the corresponding children are not needed for this simulation.n

[AmbarNaik13]

I have found out the problem. Its very small. Some of the co-ordinate systems were not realigned by me to a proper position after making CAD changes. The remote points are placed on those respective misaligned respective co-ordinate systems with the flanges of plates scoped to the remote points. As the co-ordinate systems were placed away from it, it the flanges went out of pinball region and gave the error. I realigned the co-ordinate systems and the simulation started working again.n

[peteroznewman]

I'm glad you found the mistake. I was able to write out the input file, but it is so large and there are so many places to check that would be very difficult to find the problem.n

[rabia.altunay]

I have the same problem, how I can Set the variable "contactAllowEmpty" to 1 in order to allow the solution to proceed with an ANSYS warning which can be used to identify the offending contact pair(s) by reading the Solution Output?

Could you direct step by step to be able to find it?

[Mulan Huang]

Hello,

I have had a problem to show "At least one contact pair or remote load has no elements in it. This may be due to mesh based defeaturing of the geometry.  You may select the offending object via RMB on this warning in the Messages window." the problem is still existing when i  set the "mesh defeaturing" to "No". 

@ Peteroznewman Subscriber :could you help me to fix it? Thanks very much.

 

 

[peteroznewman]

What happens when you click the right mouse button (RMB) on that message?

[Mulan Huang]

below info happened:

[peteroznewman]

What happens when you select Go To Object?

[Mulan Huang]

the cursor went to "solution info", but it shows nothing when i click "solution info"

[Mulan Huang]

I reset the remote displacement, this error was gone.? Thanks

[ehsan tolu]

hello every one. I have the same problem in ANSYS mechanical,

i red all replies and do it step by step.  

I changed automatic mesh defeaturing to no  , but the result was same

Also I Set the variable "contactAllowEmpty" to 1

but still the problem appear.Could you direct step by step to be able to find the mistake?

[ehsan tolu]

here is the photo for the related errors