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Issues with wrapping patch array: overlap/not touching

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    • MattSigda
      Subscriber

      I am making a mmWave Antenna and am trying to wrap a 0.33mm transmission line around 7.05mm radius cylinder. I am using the wrapped command the objects are overlapping in some places and not touching in other places. I have tried using an air gap but this is not perfect. The ground plane below was made by detaching a face form the inner wall of the cylinder. Also there is an artifact that is created on the top. Below are the errors I am receiving. For some reason not all of the elements are being wrapped. Also the bottom picture is the back (-x) view and the transmission lines are not wrapping correctly since they are not lines in that view.

    • Praneeth
      Ansys Employee

      If you are referring to the overlapping and gaps that are visible as per the second picture, then please note that this might be because of the default rendering. If you want to make sure that your wrapping is good then you can change the render settings. Detailed information regarding this can be found under "Setting the Curved Surface Visualization" section of the HFSS Help document.
      Please check the size of the cylinder for any objects which you could not wrap.
      All the very best.
    • MattSigda
      Subscriber
      Thank you. The overlap issue is resolved! ... but now I am getting two errors:
      1) When I wrap the transmission lines and patches I get the warning:
      [warning] Acis warning: "WrapSheet: Sheet does not touch next face with line contact."
      2) I am shortening the lengths of some parts to simulate a switch opening and closing like:
      2 con't) When I do this I get these errors:
      [warning] Acis warning: "Wrap Sheet: Invalid result. Sheet overlapped itself on wrap. Please check input. Possible causes are wrapping over a corner vertex or multiple turns over a periodic surface."
      [warning] Acis warning: "WrapSheet: Could not wrap complete sheet on target object."
      [warning] Acis warning: "WrapSheet: Unwrapped pieces are united together with wrapped pieces in result."


      Is there any other way to create that gap? Since all of the components needed to be united to be wrapped, I lost boundary assignments when trying to just make the gaps lumped RLC boundaries or just non model objects

      Thank you again for your help



    • Praneeth
      Ansys Employee

      I do not completely understand your issue.
      In order to find out which objects are causing these warnings, please wrap each component separately and try uniting them afterwards as required.
      In this way you might find the source for these warnings.
      All the very best.
    • MattSigda
      Subscriber
      When individually wrapped, the sheets lose alignment
    • Praneeth
      Ansys Employee

      Please go through the "Wrap sheet command" section in the HFSS help document. It has detailed information on how you can use for your purpose.
      All the very best.

    • AndyJP
      Subscriber
      That is a common problem in HFSS.
      The 3D modeller uses true curves. But the solver uses linear meshes even when the EM field is solved in curvelinear coordinates (there was no such option 10 years ago, but the modeller and the mesher did not change much since then). Usually, every iteration will produce a new mesh which will eventually intersect somewhere. There is no mechanism for avoidint this problem in HFSS.
      Your only option is creating a linear (triangular faceted) mesh outside of HFSS and importing it as is. Faceted objects are re-meshed without distortions when solving.
      Another option is creating a buffer dielectric layer where all your metal patches reside completely, so the solver will substract the iterative mesh automatically from this layer wtih no errors. This can be simply an airbox and the metal patches "floating" above the substrate in it.
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