{"id":164662,"date":"2023-03-17T08:58:20","date_gmt":"2023-03-17T08:58:20","guid":{"rendered":"\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/"},"modified":"2023-07-31T12:26:01","modified_gmt":"2023-07-31T12:26:01","slug":"polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model","status":"publish","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/","title":{"rendered":"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The absence of vortex is nearly normal. The baseline for the development of the SVE model is swelling in extrusion. Important effects such as elongational viscosity (producing corner vortices) have been discarded. Actually, incorporating all possible viscoelastic effects into a simplified one would eventually lead to a model that would be computationally as expensive as another tensorial viscoelastic model. The reduced computational cost is possible only when one accepts to discard some features.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-164662","topic","type-topic","status-publish","hentry","topic-tag-4424","topic-tag-fluid-dynamics","topic-tag-general","topic-tag-polyflow","topic-tag-scaften"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The absence of vortex is nearly normal. The baseline for the development of the SVE model is swelling in extrusion. Important effects such as elongational viscosity (producing corner vortices) have been discarded. Actually, incorporating all possible viscoelastic effects into a simplified one would eventually lead to a model that would be computationally as expensive as\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"max-image-preview:large\" \/>\n\t<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"generator\" content=\"All in One SEO (AIOSEO) 4.9.10\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Ansys Knowledge | Ansys Innovation Space\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model? | Ansys Knowledge\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The absence of vortex is nearly normal. The baseline for the development of the SVE model is swelling in extrusion. Important effects such as elongational viscosity (producing corner vortices) have been discarded. Actually, incorporating all possible viscoelastic effects into a simplified one would eventually lead to a model that would be computationally as expensive as\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2023-03-17T08:58:20+00:00\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2023-07-31T12:26:01+00:00\" \/>\n\t\t<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n\t\t<meta name=\"twitter:title\" content=\"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model? | Ansys Knowledge\" \/>\n\t\t<meta name=\"twitter:description\" content=\"The absence of vortex is nearly normal. The baseline for the development of the SVE model is swelling in extrusion. Important effects such as elongational viscosity (producing corner vortices) have been discarded. Actually, incorporating all possible viscoelastic effects into a simplified one would eventually lead to a model that would be computationally as expensive as\" \/>\n\t\t<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"aioseo-schema\">\n\t\t\t{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic\\\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\\\/#breadcrumblist\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge#listItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\",\"nextItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/topics\\\/#listItem\",\"name\":\"Topics\"}},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/topics\\\/#listItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Topics\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/topics\\\/\",\"nextItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic-tag\\\/fluid-dynamics\\\/#listItem\",\"name\":\"fluid-dynamics\"},\"previousItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge#listItem\",\"name\":\"Home\"}},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic-tag\\\/fluid-dynamics\\\/#listItem\",\"position\":3,\"name\":\"fluid-dynamics\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic-tag\\\/fluid-dynamics\\\/\",\"nextItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic\\\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\\\/#listItem\",\"name\":\"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model?\"},\"previousItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/topics\\\/#listItem\",\"name\":\"Topics\"}},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic\\\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\\\/#listItem\",\"position\":4,\"name\":\"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model?\",\"previousItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic-tag\\\/fluid-dynamics\\\/#listItem\",\"name\":\"fluid-dynamics\"}}]},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/#organization\",\"name\":\"Ansys Knowledge\",\"description\":\"Ansys Innovation Space\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic\\\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\\\/#webpage\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic\\\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\\\/\",\"name\":\"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model? | Ansys Knowledge\",\"description\":\"The absence of vortex is nearly normal. The baseline for the development of the SVE model is swelling in extrusion. Important effects such as elongational viscosity (producing corner vortices) have been discarded. Actually, incorporating all possible viscoelastic effects into a simplified one would eventually lead to a model that would be computationally as expensive as\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/#website\"},\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/forums\\\/topic\\\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\\\/#breadcrumblist\"},\"datePublished\":\"2023-03-17T08:58:20+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2023-07-31T12:26:01+00:00\"},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/\",\"name\":\"Ansys Knowledge\",\"description\":\"Ansys Innovation Space\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/innovationspace.ansys.com\\\/knowledge\\\/#organization\"}}]}\n\t\t<\/script>\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO -->\n\n","aioseo_head_json":{"title":"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model? | Ansys Knowledge","description":"The absence of vortex is nearly normal. The baseline for the development of the SVE model is swelling in extrusion. Important effects such as elongational viscosity (producing corner vortices) have been discarded. Actually, incorporating all possible viscoelastic effects into a simplified one would eventually lead to a model that would be computationally as expensive as","canonical_url":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/","robots":"max-image-preview:large","keywords":"","webmasterTools":{"miscellaneous":""},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/#breadcrumblist","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge#listItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge","nextItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/topics\/#listItem","name":"Topics"}},{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/topics\/#listItem","position":2,"name":"Topics","item":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/topics\/","nextItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic-tag\/fluid-dynamics\/#listItem","name":"fluid-dynamics"},"previousItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge#listItem","name":"Home"}},{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic-tag\/fluid-dynamics\/#listItem","position":3,"name":"fluid-dynamics","item":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic-tag\/fluid-dynamics\/","nextItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/#listItem","name":"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model?"},"previousItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/topics\/#listItem","name":"Topics"}},{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/#listItem","position":4,"name":"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model?","previousItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic-tag\/fluid-dynamics\/#listItem","name":"fluid-dynamics"}}]},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/#organization","name":"Ansys Knowledge","description":"Ansys Innovation Space","url":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/"},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/#webpage","url":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/","name":"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model? | Ansys Knowledge","description":"The absence of vortex is nearly normal. The baseline for the development of the SVE model is swelling in extrusion. Important effects such as elongational viscosity (producing corner vortices) have been discarded. Actually, incorporating all possible viscoelastic effects into a simplified one would eventually lead to a model that would be computationally as expensive as","inLanguage":"en-US","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/#website"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/#breadcrumblist"},"datePublished":"2023-03-17T08:58:20+00:00","dateModified":"2023-07-31T12:26:01+00:00"},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/#website","url":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/","name":"Ansys Knowledge","description":"Ansys Innovation Space","inLanguage":"en-US","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/#organization"}}]},"og:locale":"en_US","og:site_name":"Ansys Knowledge | Ansys Innovation Space","og:type":"article","og:title":"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model? | Ansys Knowledge","og:description":"The absence of vortex is nearly normal. The baseline for the development of the SVE model is swelling in extrusion. Important effects such as elongational viscosity (producing corner vortices) have been discarded. Actually, incorporating all possible viscoelastic effects into a simplified one would eventually lead to a model that would be computationally as expensive as","og:url":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/","article:published_time":"2023-03-17T08:58:20+00:00","article:modified_time":"2023-07-31T12:26:01+00:00","twitter:card":"summary_large_image","twitter:title":"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model? | Ansys Knowledge","twitter:description":"The absence of vortex is nearly normal. The baseline for the development of the SVE model is swelling in extrusion. Important effects such as elongational viscosity (producing corner vortices) have been discarded. Actually, incorporating all possible viscoelastic effects into a simplified one would eventually lead to a model that would be computationally as expensive as"},"aioseo_meta_data":{"post_id":"164662","title":null,"description":null,"keywords":null,"keyphrases":null,"primary_term":null,"canonical_url":null,"og_title":null,"og_description":null,"og_object_type":"default","og_image_type":"default","og_image_url":null,"og_image_width":null,"og_image_height":null,"og_image_custom_url":null,"og_image_custom_fields":null,"og_video":null,"og_custom_url":null,"og_article_section":null,"og_article_tags":null,"twitter_use_og":false,"twitter_card":"default","twitter_image_type":"default","twitter_image_url":null,"twitter_image_custom_url":null,"twitter_image_custom_fields":null,"twitter_title":null,"twitter_description":null,"schema":{"blockGraphs":[],"customGraphs":[],"default":{"data":{"Article":[],"Course":[],"Dataset":[],"FAQPage":[],"Movie":[],"Person":[],"Product":[],"ProductReview":[],"Car":[],"Recipe":[],"Service":[],"SoftwareApplication":[],"WebPage":[]},"graphName":"","isEnabled":true},"graphs":[]},"schema_type":"default","schema_type_options":null,"pillar_content":false,"robots_default":true,"robots_noindex":false,"robots_noarchive":false,"robots_nosnippet":false,"robots_nofollow":false,"robots_noimageindex":false,"robots_noodp":false,"robots_notranslate":false,"robots_max_snippet":null,"robots_max_videopreview":null,"robots_max_imagepreview":"large","priority":null,"frequency":null,"local_seo":null,"limit_modified_date":false,"created":"2025-10-17 21:31:32","updated":"2026-07-29 14:22:57","ai":null,"breadcrumb_settings":null,"seo_analyzer_scan_date":null},"aioseo_breadcrumb":"<div class=\"aioseo-breadcrumbs\"><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\" title=\"Home\">Home<\/a>\n\t\t<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb-separator\">&raquo;<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/topics\/\" title=\"Topics\">Topics<\/a>\n\t\t<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb-separator\">&raquo;<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic-tag\/fluid-dynamics\/\" title=\"fluid-dynamics\">fluid-dynamics<\/a>\n\t\t<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb-separator\">&raquo;<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb\">\n\t\t\tPOLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model?\n\t\t<\/span><\/div>","aioseo_breadcrumb_json":[{"label":"Home","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge"},{"label":"Topics","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/topics\/"},{"label":"fluid-dynamics","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic-tag\/fluid-dynamics\/"},{"label":"POLYFLOW: In the ScaFTen case, why is the vortex was not seen in the corner while it is predicted with e.g. the Phan Thien-Tanner model?","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/polyflow-in-the-scaften-case-why-is-the-vortex-was-not-seen-in-the-corner-while-it-is-predicted-with-e-g-the-phan-thien-tanner-model\/"}],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_wp_page_template":["default"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["3-15-2023  20:20:49"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27796"],"_bbp_author_ip":["23.56.168.180"],"_btv_view_count":["407"],"siebel_km_number":["2040454"],"product_version":["16"],"km_published_date":["2015-10-26T00:00:00.000Z"],"family":["Fluid Dynamics"],"application_name":["POLYFLOW"]},"test":"articlesansys-com"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/164662","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/164662\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=164662"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}