{"id":161742,"date":"2023-01-25T07:16:50","date_gmt":"2023-01-25T07:16:50","guid":{"rendered":"\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/what-should-the-size-of-the-mrf-be-for-axial-fans-e-g-underhood-cooling-fans\/"},"modified":"2023-07-31T12:35:49","modified_gmt":"2023-07-31T12:35:49","slug":"what-should-the-size-of-the-mrf-be-for-axial-fans-e-g-underhood-cooling-fans","status":"publish","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/knowledge\/forums\/topic\/what-should-the-size-of-the-mrf-be-for-axial-fans-e-g-underhood-cooling-fans\/","title":{"rendered":"What should the size of the MRF be for axial fans (e.g. underhood cooling fans)?"},"content":{"rendered":"

It is a common problem in underhood environments to become very congested, causing the MRF used to model the cooling fans to become very small. A common question to ask is how small one can make the MRF. Some facts about MRF: 1. Non-axisymmetric stationary walls cannot touch or be inside the MRF. Otherwise, it will produce false velocities. 2. If an axisymmetric stationary wall does touch and is inside the MRF (e.g. part of the shroud), you must explicitly declare it as stationary in absolute reference frame in the wall boundary condition. This includes wall-shadows as well. MRF Size: MRF in general works OK provided that the flow is either: (1) Circumferentially uniform at the interface or (2) If circumferential non-uniformities in the flow exist, but the flow must primarily passes one way through the interface. In the real underhood situation, the fan is inserted partially or fully inside the cylindrical portion of the shroud. Since the cylindrical portion of the shroud is axi-symmetric, we can make its walls touch the cylindrical portion of the MRF interface. Thus, the cylindrical portion of the MRF will be a wall. It will have wall and wall-shadow\u2014make sure the one adjacent to the MRF cell zone is declared as stationary in absolute reference frame. Making the cylindrical portion of the shroud a wall will prevent any flow passing it. If that portion of the shroud is not fully axi-symmetric in reality, one could\u2014in the preprocessor\u2014change it to be. By doing this, we are moving away from reality, so make sure that the modification is not significant. In the case of a plane shroud, which is typically used in the experiment when the fan curve is obtained, there is a significant recirculation near the fan tip. If you increase the radius of the MRF boundary away from the recirculation, you will see better prediction. But in the circular faces of the MRF boundary, the flow is only one directional\u2014there are no recirculation at any of these two circular faces. Thus, the accuracy is not degraded as you decrease the MRF size in the axial direction.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-161742","topic","type-topic","status-publish","hentry","topic-tag-4424","topic-tag-fluent","topic-tag-fluid-dynamics","topic-tag-mrf-frozen-rotor","topic-tag-rotating-flow","topic-tag-rotating-machinery","topic-tag-turbomachinery"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t