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If the faces are not consistent, you can either flip the faces using DesignModeler or SpaceClaim, or divide the contact pairs into smaller pairs that have a consistent direction (note: over-constraint might then be an issue with MPC contact).<br \/>For solid bodies, this behavior can be caused if the contact and\/or target side was defeatured at the mesh level. A local mesh size control can help retain features close to the contact. Limiting the scope of the contact and target sides might also help. The tolerance slider can be used to tighten the tolerance of the automatic contact detection. To create contacts with a tighter tolerance, you need to delete the old contact pair and right click on the Connection Group &#8211; > &#8220;Create Automatic Connections&#8221;.  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