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The location of the cap could be in four different positions depending which corner the tank is dropped onto but for the first instance I am assuming it is where the red dot is on the picture of the geometry below. The tank itself has already been tested and elsewhere so its actual behavior is not of concern, the cap is the focus. <\/p>\n<p>If the cap is to fail, I am unsure if it will be because of the water splashing up from the impact with the floor and hitting the underside of the camp or because of an increase in pressure in the tank caused by deformation when it hits the floor. <\/p>\n<p>I have am having problems with both of these methods:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>I do not know how to simulate the water in the tank so it splashes upwards to investigate it hitting where the cap would be. <\/li>\n<li>I cannot find how to get the volume change of the tank caused by the deformation upon impact.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>So far I have tried simulations in both explicit dynamics and transient structural with the transient one being what I believe is most representative. I have applied atmospheric pressure to the interior faces of the tank not filled with water and I have modelled water as an orthotropic solid based on <a href=\"\/forum\/discussion\/457\/drop-test-of-a-water-filled-tube\" rel=\"nofollow\">this analysis<\/a> by <a class=\"atMention\" data-username=\"peteroznewman\" data-userid=\"636\" href=\"https:\/\/forum.webdevonline.net\/profile\/peteroznewman\">@peteroznewman<\/a> but I am unsure if that is a fair assumption in this case. Then I have given the tank a downward velocity and gravitational acceleration and fixed the floor. <\/p>\n<p>Any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you in advance. <\/p>\n<div class=\"embedExternal embedImage\">\n<div class=\"embedExternal-content\">\n<a class=\"embedImage-link\" href=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/B97AIXM13QEW\/image.png\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"embedImage-img\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/B97AIXM13QEW\/image.png\" alt=\"image.png\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-52915","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry","topic-tag-ansys-mechanical","topic-tag-explicit-dynamics","topic-tag-transient-analysis","topic-tag-transient-structural"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Good afternoon,I am trying to simulate the drop test of a tank, 80% full with water, onto one of its corners. 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