


{"id":51030,"date":"2021-01-05T05:39:36","date_gmt":"2021-01-05T05:39:36","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/transient-multiphase-flow-simulation-inside-a-high-length-to-diameter-ratio-pipe\/"},"modified":"2021-01-05T05:39:36","modified_gmt":"2021-01-05T05:39:36","slug":"transient-multiphase-flow-simulation-inside-a-high-length-to-diameter-ratio-pipe","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/transient-multiphase-flow-simulation-inside-a-high-length-to-diameter-ratio-pipe\/","title":{"rendered":"Transient multiphase flow simulation inside a high length to diameter ratio pipe"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"Item-Body\">\n<div class=\"Message userContent\">\n<p>Hi forum,<\/p>\n<p>I would like to know how can I efficiently simulate a transient multiphase flow scenario of a vertical pipe having an L\/D ratio in the order of 10^4 or so (5000 ft long with a 0.5 ft dia). I might need to simulate around 30 minutes flow. This is an example of an oil and gas well drilling scenario. I have read some papers saying the simulate may diverge due ot the high l\/d value. Some even suggested my case may take a month to simulate even on an HPC. <\/p>\n<p>One solution was suggested on this forum (link below) is to divide the pipe into multiple small segments and transfer profile data from segment to segment. <\/p>\n<p>I plan to use a 2-D geometry, probably will go with axisymmetry along the vertical axis, use VOF model, no energy equation at this point. I will have High performance Computer access. <\/p>\n<p>Please try to shed some light on the following points and beyond those if you can:<\/p>\n<p>1) How can profile transfer technique be implemented for a transient case? It will be highly transient (bunch of gas bubbles being circulated), so no chance of SS<\/p>\n<p>2) I can perform dimensional analysis to reduce my length but in that case, the diameter will be super small. What do you think?<\/p>\n<p>3) I came across the idea of creating response surface for different smaller length pipe and try to extrapolate what the conditions could be for 5000 ft pipe. But I don&#039;t have good knowledge on that front, so any thoughts?<\/p>\n<p>4) Any other technique you would suggest?<\/p>\n<p>5) I know it is difficult to tell without knowing the configuration of HPC, but just to get a ball park as I have no knowledge using HPC, if I actually do the simulation full-scale with 2-D axisymmetry for 30 minute of flow, how long the simulation may take?<\/p>\n<p><p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"js-embed embedResponsive\" data-embedJson=\"{&quot;recordID&quot;:4966,&quot;recordType&quot;:&quot;discussion&quot;,&quot;body&quot;:&quot;&lt;p&gt;When drilling a well it can reach to lengths longer that 100000ft. The diameter however is less than a meter the whole way down. I am trying to mesh a 0.3m diameter, 30000m long pipe. I used dimensional analysis to scale the product down to 0.0003m diameter and 3m long. However, I am struggling to mesh such a long product. &lt;\/p&gt;\n&lt;p&gt; &lt;\/p&gt;\n&lt;p&gt;Has anyone had this occur? Is there a scaling  option in ANSYS to scale down the length or to use symmetry to create a long pipe? \n<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-51030","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry","topic-tag-ansys-fluent","topic-tag-multiphase-flow","topic-tag-transient"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_old_topic_id":["23287"],"_bbp_old_topic_author_name_id":["Anonymous"],"_bbp_old_is_topic_anonymous_id":["false"],"_bbp_old_closed_status_id":["publish"],"_bbp_author_ip":["D??\u000f"],"_bbp_old_sticky_status_id":["normal"],"_bbp_likes_count":["0"],"_btv_view_count":["472"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_id":["51030"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27792"],"_bbp_engagement":["199","184662"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_reply_count":["5"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["137804"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["137804"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2021-01-06 11:28:42"]},"test":"shahriar_011"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/51030","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/51030\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=51030"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}