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Electrometal plate is on the inside, while magnet is inserted in electrometal plate.<\/p>\n<p>Whole rotor is then spinning with 6200 RPM (ideally I want to make this number 25 000 RPM) at the temperature of 160&deg;C. Due to spinning and &quot;centrifugal&quot; force, magnets are then pushed away from the center of rotation and thus pressing on the polymer part. For that I&#039;ve assign a static structural analysis with 2 step analysis.<\/p>\n<p>In the first step I heat up the whole rotor from room temperature to 160&deg;C. After that I assigned rotational velocity for whole rotor, while keeping the temperature at 160&deg;C from first load step.<\/p>\n<p>My points of interests are radial displacements on polymer part (due to spinning + pressure of the magnets) and of course stresses (von Mises).<\/p>\n<p>I managed to get simulation working. While radial displacements seem reasonable, the stresses are far from it and are way higher than one should expect ranking at ~6 000 MPa on electrometal plate and ~1 000 MPa on polymer part in contact region. I believe it is some sort of &quot;singularity of contacts&quot;. I tried to run simulation without load step 1, so without heating the rotor up and the stresses were much lower ranking at ~5MPa on electrometal plate.<\/p>\n<p>All of my parts are connected via frictional contacts as that is the real case. I&#039;ve also set all the things needed to perform non-linear analysis such as: turn Large deflection on, setting Initial, Min and Max substeps, also checked N-R residuals plot. Load step 1 has 100 initial substeps, 20 Min and 1000 Max. Load step 2 has 50 initial substeps, 20 Min and 500 Max.<\/p>\n<p>I believe I am doing something wrong. So far I&#039;ve tried alot of things:<\/p>\n<p>-modifying Normal stiffness<\/p>\n<p>-trying different Contact formulations<\/p>\n<p>-adding Stability damping effects<\/p>\n<p>-refining mesh<\/p>\n<p>-adding Multilinear isotropic hardening for electrometal plate<\/p>\n<p>None of the above things worked as I hoped. Either high stresses remained or solver couldn&#039;t converge.<\/p>\n<p>I did notice that high stresses occur between the electrometal plate and polymer part &#8211; mostly on the edge of these two. I believe the problem is in either contact stiffness or penetration, but sadly I don&#039;t know how to solve these two in a way I want. Most of the things I tried I found here, on Ansys forum. During the analysis I also received &quot;Contact status has experienced an abrupt change&quot;. Solver output also keeps giving warnings about too much penetration.<\/p>\n<p>When looking at the Force convergence plot I usually note that Force convergence line sometimes appears to be below Force criterion for several substeps in a row, yet I don&#039;t see the green line marking that Substep converged.<\/p>\n<p>I am also adding the analysis file for anyone willing to take a look and suggest what actions should I take.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the full model, electrometal plate being gray, polymer part being green. Between the two is the magnet on next image being blue.<\/p>\n<div class=\"embedExternal embedImage\">\n<div class=\"embedExternal-content\">\n<a class=\"embedImage-link\" href=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/7TEG6W4K8165\/model.png\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"embedImage-img\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/7TEG6W4K8165\/model.png\" alt=\"Full model, magnet is between electrometal plate (gray) and polymer part (green).\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-47957","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry","topic-tag-ansys-mechanical","topic-tag-contact","topic-tag-convergence","topic-tag-static-structural","topic-tag-workbench"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_old_topic_id":["20168"],"_bbp_old_topic_author_name_id":["Anonymous"],"_bbp_old_is_topic_anonymous_id":["false"],"_bbp_old_closed_status_id":["publish"],"_bbp_author_ip":["*\u0001\u0002a\u0000\u0000\u0000\u000b\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000+U"],"_bbp_old_sticky_status_id":["normal"],"_bbp_likes_count":["0"],"_btv_view_count":["4822"],"_bbp_subscription":["255161"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_id":["47957"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27791"],"_bbp_engagement":["88","240","181041"],"_bbp_voice_count":["3"],"_bbp_reply_count":["12"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["127481"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["127481"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2020-09-18 09:33:19"]},"test":"bukovnik"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/47957","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/47957\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=47957"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}