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It seems the pressure only acts on the cup and does not generate the expected suction holding force on the part.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;h3 data-section-id=&#8221;197y263&#8243; data-start=&#8221;581&#8243; data-end=&#8221;594&#8243;&gt;Questions&lt;\/h3&gt;<\/p>\n<ol>&lt;li data-section-id=&#8221;1eszei1&#8243; data-start=&#8221;595&#8243; data-end=&#8221;654&#8243;&gt;What is the correct way to model vacuum suction contact?<\/li>\n<p>&lt;li data-section-id=&#8221;1hvl2ni&#8221; data-start=&#8221;655&#8243; data-end=&#8221;705&#8243;&gt;Is internal negative pressure alone sufficient?<\/li>\n<p>&lt;li data-section-id=&#8221;u82b10&#8243; data-start=&#8221;706&#8243; data-end=&#8221;775&#8243;&gt;How should the pressure transfer to the contacted part be modeled?<\/li>\n<p>&lt;li data-section-id=&#8221;1tfkvrt&#8221; data-start=&#8221;918&#8243; data-end=&#8221;1072&#8243;&gt;Is there a recommended method in &lt;span class=&#8221;whitespace-normal&#8221;&gt;LS-DYNA&lt;\/span&gt; or &lt;span class=&#8221;whitespace-normal&#8221;&gt;ANSYS Mechanical&lt;\/span&gt; for suction cup attachment simulations?<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>&lt;p data-start=&#8221;1074&#8243; data-end=&#8221;1129&#8243; data-is-last-node=&#8221;&#8221; data-is-only-node=&#8221;&#8221;&gt;Any guidance or example workflows would be appreciated&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;1074&#8243; data-end=&#8221;1129&#8243; data-is-last-node=&#8221;&#8221; data-is-only-node=&#8221;&#8221;&gt;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/05\/28-05-2026-1779979966-Screenshot 2026-05-28 172933.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"745\" height=\"391\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;1074&#8243; data-end=&#8221;1129&#8243; data-is-last-node=&#8221;&#8221; data-is-only-node=&#8221;&#8221;&gt;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/05\/28-05-2026-1779979977-Screenshot 2026-05-28 173132.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"743\" height=\"357\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;1074&#8243; data-end=&#8221;1129&#8243; data-is-last-node=&#8221;&#8221; data-is-only-node=&#8221;&#8221;&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/05\/28-05-2026-1779979995-Screenshot 2026-05-28 173222.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-458963","topic","type-topic","status-publish","hentry","topic-tag-lsdyna","topic-tag-vacuum-2"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_forum_id":["27814"],"_bbp_topic_id":["458963"],"_bbp_subscription":["692960","240"],"_bbp_author_ip":["150.140.150.40"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["458972"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["458972"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2026-05-28 21:37:53"],"_bbp_reply_count":["1"],"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":["0"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_engagement":["692960","240"],"_btv_view_count":["30"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"]},"test":"b-mavroeidis2gmail-com"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/458963","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/458963\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=458963"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}