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The supports are cylinders, and I applied Remote Displacement to impose their translation.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;445&#8243; data-end=&#8221;609&#8243;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221;&gt;When I set the contact between the cylinders and the sandwich as &ldquo;totally bonded&rdquo;, the simulation works even for relatively large displacements (e.g., 10 mm).&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;611&#8243; data-end=&#8221;752&#8243;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221;&gt;However, when I switch to contact with friction, the simulation only converges for small displacements. Beyond about 8 mm, it diverges.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;754&#8243; data-end=&#8221;788&#8243;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221;&gt;I have added photos showing:&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;ul data-start=&#8221;789&#8243; data-end=&#8221;892&#8243;&gt;&lt;li style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221; data-start=&#8221;789&#8243; data-end=&#8221;830&#8243;&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;791&#8243; data-end=&#8221;830&#8243;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221;&gt;the case when the simulation diverges&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;<\/li>\n<p>&lt;li style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221; data-start=&#8221;831&#8243; data-end=&#8221;861&#8243;&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;833&#8243; data-end=&#8221;861&#8243;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221;&gt;the case when it converges&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;<\/li>\n<p>&lt;li style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221; data-start=&#8221;862&#8243; data-end=&#8221;892&#8243;&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;864&#8243; data-end=&#8221;892&#8243;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221;&gt;how I defined the contacts&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&lt;p data-start=&#8221;849&#8243; data-end=&#8221;987&#8243;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221;&gt;Could someone advise what parameters I should modify to make the simulation converge for larger displacements with contact and friction?&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p data-start=&#8221;849&#8243; data-end=&#8221;987&#8243;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10pt;&#8221;&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/22-11-2025-1763820244-mceclip0.png\" \/><a>&nbsp;<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/22-11-2025-1763820319-blobid0.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/22-11-2025-1763820361-mceclip1.png\" \/>&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-447023","topic","type-topic","status-publish","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_forum_id":["27786"],"_bbp_topic_id":["447023"],"_bbp_author_ip":["2a02:8428:35a5:4f01:ec4e:4114:f27f:7f93"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["447115"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["447115"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2025-11-24 10:17:00"],"_bbp_reply_count":["1"],"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":["0"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_engagement":["613448","58821"],"_btv_view_count":["285"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_notification_enabled":["613448"],"_bbp_subscription":["58821"]},"test":"ikram-marzoukiestaca-eu"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/447023","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/447023\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=447023"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}