


{"id":44461,"date":"2020-05-27T20:22:56","date_gmt":"2020-05-27T20:22:56","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/successful-simulation-with-pressure-based-method-diverges-with-density-based\/"},"modified":"2020-05-27T20:22:56","modified_gmt":"2020-05-27T20:22:56","slug":"successful-simulation-with-pressure-based-method-diverges-with-density-based","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/successful-simulation-with-pressure-based-method-diverges-with-density-based\/","title":{"rendered":"Successful simulation (with Pressure-based method) diverges with Density-based"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hello everyone,<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>I try to simulate a convergent-divergent nozzle flow based on this subject <a href=\"https:\/\/ntrs.nasa.gov\/search.jsp?R=19820006179\">https:\/\/ntrs.nasa.gov\/search.jsp?R=19820006179<\/a> <br \/>Following the method used by these people: <a href=\"https:\/\/tfaws.nasa.gov\/TFAWS11\/Proceedings\/TFAWS2011-AE-001.pdf?fbclid=IwAR28cKI5Ghk_hSVQ5ckgZiXs3ibXEyAWBguCsy7cCUrd8aXHURRLa3gRX1E\">https:\/\/tfaws.nasa.gov\/TFAWS11\/Proceedings\/TFAWS2011-AE-001.pdf?fbclid=IwAR28cKI5Ghk_hSVQ5ckgZiXs3ibXEyAWBguCsy7cCUrd8aXHURRLa3gRX1E<\/a><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>I went from a simulation where I wasn&#8217;t satisfied about the results I got regarding the pressure coefficient results and the flow separation position. So I came back to my mesh and refined it nicely, with y+ consideration. My new results with a pressure-based method are way better than before, the target y+ is good and the pressure coefficient near the wall finally fits the experimental one.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/b45dcc9b-650f-48b5-bed2-aa6b007b5399\/0d0cdce7-c2d1-4af7-93a6-abc8014b9c4f_mach-number-pbcs.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/b45dcc9b-650f-48b5-bed2-aa6b007b5399\/92ec7995-99b4-47b9-9f25-abc8014eafd4_mesh-refined.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>BUT, when I switch to Density-based method, things go wrong. Simulation fails to start well and diverges very quickly. I tried everything : CFL number variation, changing from AUSM to FDS, using standard or hybrid initialization etc.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The methods used are:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Pressure Based Coupled Solver (PBCS) with 1\/ 2nd order for all equations<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Density Based Solver (DBNS) with 2nd order for all equations<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Input parameters:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>Material:<\/strong> Air (ideal-gas)<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>Model:<\/strong> SST k-omega (2 equ.)<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>Boundary conditions:<\/strong> 1 pressure inlet (2.5 atm), 1 pressure outlet (1 atm)<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>Solution method:<\/strong> AUSM &#8211; Least square &#8211; 2nd order<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>Initialization method:<\/strong> Hybrid or Standard<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>It seems like a shock wave is created at the first iteration (ignoring the initialization) and is at the origin of the divergence.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>I screened the first iterations :<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/b45dcc9b-650f-48b5-bed2-aa6b007b5399\/791f24e9-c943-423a-82f6-abc8014c6116_first-shock.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\" width=\"623\" height=\"223\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/b45dcc9b-650f-48b5-bed2-aa6b007b5399\/97fae7bd-47bd-41b3-82a0-abc8014cd8fd_first-shock-next.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\" width=\"622\" height=\"191\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Do you have any idea what could be the origin of this failure?<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Best regards.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-44461","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_old_topic_id":["16642"],"_bbp_old_topic_author_name_id":["Anonymous"],"_bbp_old_is_topic_anonymous_id":["false"],"_bbp_old_closed_status_id":["publish"],"_bbp_author_ip":[null],"_bbp_old_sticky_status_id":["normal"],"_bbp_likes_count":["0"],"_btv_view_count":["1762"],"_bbp_subscription":["240687"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_id":["44461"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27792"],"_bbp_engagement":["59","118","166009"],"_bbp_voice_count":["3"],"_bbp_reply_count":["13"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["116923"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["116923"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2020-06-06 20:10:23"]},"test":"killian153"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/44461","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/44461\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44461"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}