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So I&#8217;m unsure if this is even correct modeling.&lt;br&gt;- I also tried flipping contact\/target sides, but the same result.&lt;br&gt;- Adjust to Touch is not available for bonded or CZM contact types.&lt;br&gt;- If I change the shell offset to bottom to match the contact geometry better, then Ansys no longer considers the shell thickness in the contact behavior.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So my question is how I can define the contact between a shell mid-surface and a solid face properly and avoid the solver warning. What I really want is to make sure the contact activates as expected and that the adhesive behavior, like debonding and frictional stress, is captured realistically.&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;I should mention that I already tested the same adhesive using CZM between two solid bodies, and in that case, everything worked fine, and the results matched the datasheet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-431251","topic","type-topic","status-publish","hentry","topic-tag-adhesive","topic-tag-czm","topic-tag-midsurface","topic-tag-shell-elements"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Hi everyone, I&#039;m trying to implement a Cohesive Zone Model (CZM) in ANSYS Mechanical to simulate adhesive bonding between a shell element (mid-surface airfoil) and a solid body (square tube).However, I\u2019m struggling with contact activation and realistic adhesive behavior.Setup: - 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