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The first one is my &#8220;initialization&#8221; which is the ideal-gas solution.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\">As soon as I switch the gas model, the residuals jump sudently and the simulation does not diverge because I have set pressure and temperature limits based on the ideal-gas solution (assuming that the flow field will not change dramatically with the real gas model), and the residuals keep almost constant through the iterations, they don&acute;t converge. The Mach number contour after 1 single iteration looks very scattered, I had to clip the contour for Mach number between 0 and 10 because at the inlet the Mach number increased up to Mach 630. I have been trying many solver configurations to continue the calculations from the ideal-gas solution (i.e. explicit\/implicit modes, multigrid levels, low Courant and Under-relaxation factors&#8230;) but none of them seem to work properly.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\"><span style=\"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px;\">At the inlet I am applying pressure-inlet. Since the temperature is lower than 500 Kelvin, the model is solving the flow using the Ideal-gas formulation which should give the same exact solution in that region. I tried to use a user-defined ideal gas model (the same model that is available at fluent but programmed as an external model) and I had the same issue. Therefore I believe that the problem is how the solver handles the gas-model change.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\"> Does anyone know any efficient way to perform this sudden gas-model change?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\">This is my initial solution with ideal-gas:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/129c074b-84fe-4acc-87df-ab73012011d7\/11309cf5-159e-4978-95ac-ab8f009e0df9_initialsolution.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\">These are my residuals once I switch the gas models:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/129c074b-84fe-4acc-87df-ab73012011d7\/fb0c9dba-6e39-46ea-a39e-ab8f009e21ef_residuals.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\">And this is the Mach number contour 1 iteration after the change:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/129c074b-84fe-4acc-87df-ab73012011d7\/ab78c022-61a5-4722-8586-ab8f009e32d0_machnumbercontours.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-42275","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Hi all! 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