


{"id":402979,"date":"2024-12-30T19:04:47","date_gmt":"2024-12-30T19:04:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/errors-with-multi-connected-bodies-using-aqwa-3\/"},"modified":"2024-12-30T19:27:47","modified_gmt":"2024-12-30T19:27:47","slug":"errors-with-multi-connected-bodies-using-aqwa-3","status":"publish","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/errors-with-multi-connected-bodies-using-aqwa-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Errors with multi-connected bodies using AQWA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&lt;p&gt;I am working on modeling a Split Hopper Barge in ANSYS for my thesis project and am encountering several issues. Below is a detailed description of my setup and the problems I am facing:&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>&lt;p&gt;<strong>Model Setup:<\/strong>&lt;\/p&gt;\n<ul>\n<li>I have created two joints on the deck: one hinge joint and one universal joint. This setup was intended to avoid redundancy. The gap between the two hulls is 180 mm, as shown in the attached diagram.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/30-12-2024-1735584638-Screenshot 2024-12-31 002019.png\" alt=\"This are the joints with zero stiffness and zero damping as per ideal conditions\" \/>To simulate the hydraulic cylinder, I used two cables with initial tension placed below each joint. The initial tension in the cables was determined based on static force calculations.<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/30-12-2024-1735584894-Screenshot 2024-12-31 002424.png\" alt=\"\" \/>At the bottom, I modeled two fenders (forward and aft), as shown in the diagrams.<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/30-12-2024-1735585066-Screenshot 2024-12-31 002659.png\" alt=\"\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<strong>2. Simulation Results:<\/strong>&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n<ul>&lt;li style=&#8221;list-style-type: none;&#8221;&gt;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Diffraction Analysis:<\/strong> The diffraction analysis ran successfully without any issues.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/30-12-2024-1735585125-mceclip0.png\" \/><strong>Response Analysis:<\/strong>&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>During the stability analysis, the bodies are moving randomly, going above and below the water level unexpectedly.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/30-12-2024-1735585244-mceclip1.png\" \/>The lateral forces at the hinges are excessively high, reaching values as large as &lt;span class=&#8221;katex&#8221;&gt;&lt;span class=&#8221;base&#8221;&gt;&lt;span class=&#8221;mord&#8221;&gt;1&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;span class=&#8221;mord&#8221;&gt;0^&lt;span class=&#8221;mord mtight&#8221;&gt;11&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;span class=&#8221;mord&#8221;&gt;kN&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;. These forces should ideally be around 900 kN, as per static calculations&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/30-12-2024-1735585624-Screenshot 2024-12-31 003657.png\" alt=\"\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The time response analysis fails to run.<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/30-12-2024-1735585434-Screenshot 2024-12-31 003335.png\" alt=\"\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&nbsp;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When attempting a simplified setup with a single hinge joint at the center of the vessel, the stability analysis does not converge.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/30-12-2024-1735585961-Screenshot 2024-12-31 004222.png\" alt=\"\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&nbsp;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Using a fixed joint at the center also results in unrealistically high lateral forces, which are not physically accurate.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&nbsp;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/30-12-2024-1735586142-Screenshot 2024-12-31 004443.png\" alt=\"\" \/> .&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&nbsp;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<strong>Request for Help:<\/strong>&lt;br&gt;I need this model for my thesis project and am looking for guidance on resolving these issues. Specifically:&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Why are the bodies moving randomly in the stability analysis, and how can I resolve this?<\/li>\n<li>What could be causing the excessively high lateral forces in the hinges?<\/li>\n<li>Are there any specific changes to the joint setup or modeling approach that could improve convergence and stability?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&lt;p&gt;I would greatly appreciate any insights or recommendations from the community. Thank you!&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-402979","topic","type-topic","status-publish","hentry","topic-tag-aqwa","topic-tag-hydrodynamic-response"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_forum_id":["27792"],"_bbp_topic_id":["402979"],"_bbp_subscription":["498104","180344"],"_bbp_author_ip":["103.158.43.18"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["404461"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["404461"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2025-01-10 15:27:51"],"_bbp_reply_count":["7"],"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":["0"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_engagement":["498104","180344"],"_btv_view_count":["546"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_edit_last":["498104"],"_bbp_revision_log":["a:1:{i:402982;a:2:{s:6:\"author\";i:498104;s:6:\"reason\";s:11:\"in complete\";}}"],"_bbp_notification_enabled":["498104"],"_edit_lock":["1735587053:498104"]},"test":"oe23m012smail-iitm-ac-in"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/402979","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/402979\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":402982,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/402979\/revisions\/402982"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=402979"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}