


{"id":397704,"date":"2024-12-17T07:24:41","date_gmt":"2024-12-17T07:24:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/artificial-stresses-at-the-fixed-points-in-thermo-structural-analysis\/"},"modified":"2024-12-17T11:08:35","modified_gmt":"2024-12-17T11:08:35","slug":"artificial-stresses-at-the-fixed-points-in-thermo-structural-analysis","status":"publish","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/artificial-stresses-at-the-fixed-points-in-thermo-structural-analysis\/","title":{"rendered":"artificial stresses at the fixed points in thermo-structural analysis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;div&gt;I am working on a Thermo-structural analysis of a printed circuit heat exchanger (PCHE, it is a 50 stack HEx) model where I need to determine the appropriate thickness of the top plate. For simplification I&#8217;m just considering the top plate and the plate below it. The key loading conditions are:&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Maximum temperature: 535&deg;C(both the bodies)&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Pressure acting on the top plate(due to the fluid in the channels of the immediate below plate): 210 bar&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;To determine the stresses, I have attempted several boundary conditions:&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Fixing the side surfaces&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Fixing the bottom surface (I understand this may be over-constraining the model)&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Using remote displacement&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Adding extensions to the side surfaces and fixing them&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Unfortunately, none of these approaches produced satisfactory results. &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;As a final attempt, I applied the 321 rule to constrain the model, allowing it to freely expand. While this approach resulted in zero thermal stress(which seems promising), I observed the following:&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Under pressure, the stress in most parts of the plate is below the yield point.&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;However, stress concentrations remain very high at the fixed points and their surroundings.&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;At this point, I am unsure if my current approach is correct or if there is a better way to define the boundary conditions to obtain realistic results. So my queries are as follows:&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1)What type of restraining boundary condition is suitable for the analysis?&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2)Is 3-2-1 principle the right approach?&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3)Even when the 3-2-1 principle(if this is the correct approach) is used, it&rsquo;s resulting in very high stresses at the fixed points. So what should be done to eliminate them?&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I am attaching few pictures of the geometry profile and the results obtained when the 3-2-1 rule was employed.&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Could someone kindly provide insights on the correct boundary conditions for this type of simulation? Your guidance would be invaluable in resolving this issue.&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Edit: the deformation and stress values are increasing with mesh refinement(even though the mesh is fine).&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/17-12-2024-1734419720-Intermediate_plate_profile.png\" alt=\"its the plate below the top plate and the fluid carried in those channels exerts pressure on the top plate\" \/>&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/17-12-2024-1734419953-boundary_conditions.png\" alt=\"current boundary conditions are shown in this picture\" width=\"1039\" height=\"420\" \/>&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/17-12-2024-1734420036-deformation_results.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1043\" height=\"426\" \/>&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/12\/17-12-2024-1734420096-stress_results.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1043\" height=\"427\" \/>&lt;\/div&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-397704","topic","type-topic","status-publish","hentry","topic-tag-stress-singularity","topic-tag-unrealisticstress-1"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_forum_id":["27791"],"_bbp_topic_id":["397704"],"_bbp_subscription":["493939","20905"],"_bbp_author_ip":["14.139.128.33"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["402181"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["402181"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2024-12-30 12:17:18"],"_bbp_reply_count":["12"],"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":["0"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_engagement":["493939","20905"],"_btv_view_count":["291"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_edit_last":["493939"],"_bbp_revision_log":["a:2:{i:397705;a:2:{s:6:\"author\";i:493939;s:6:\"reason\";s:0:\"\";}i:397736;a:2:{s:6:\"author\";i:493939;s:6:\"reason\";s:0:\"\";}}"]},"test":"6cf4503db1664bdd8fd12400eb4846d53aae1afa"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/397704","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/397704\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":397736,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/397704\/revisions\/397736"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=397704"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}