


{"id":393964,"date":"2024-11-15T04:36:32","date_gmt":"2024-11-15T04:36:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/breast-deformation-from-prone-to-supine-position\/"},"modified":"2024-11-15T04:36:32","modified_gmt":"2024-11-15T04:36:32","slug":"breast-deformation-from-prone-to-supine-position","status":"publish","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/breast-deformation-from-prone-to-supine-position\/","title":{"rendered":"Breast deformation from prone to supine position"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 24.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;Recently, I attempted to simulate breast deformation from the prone to supine position, but I encountered some challenges. I&#8217;d appreciate any advice that might help.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 24.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;The model, segmented from MRI images, uses a Mooney-Rivlin hyperelastic material model with parameters shown below.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 24.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;*outside: skin, green: fat, orange; fibroglandular tissue, yellow: tumor, blue: pectoral muscle, gray: chest wall&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 24.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;&nbsp;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/11\/15-11-2024-1731642542-mceclip0.png\" width=\"482\" height=\"498\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/11\/15-11-2024-1731644021-mceclip1.png\" width=\"700\" height=\"87\" \/>&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 24.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;The mesh is tetrahedral, with a 3 mm element size. For contacts, I used the default settings in Workbench, except for a frictionless sliding contact between the pectoral muscle and chest wall; other contacts are set to &#8220;no separation.&#8221;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 18.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;The boundary conditions are based on configurations from several studies:&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n<ol start=\"1\">&lt;li class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;All faces of the chest wall are fixed.&lt;\/span&gt;<\/li>\n<p>&lt;li class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;The edge near the sternum is fixed.&lt;\/span&gt;<\/li>\n<p>&lt;li class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;Select nodes around the corners are fixed to prevent rigid displacement.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/11\/15-11-2024-1731644073-mceclip2.png\" width=\"263\" height=\"243\" \/>&lt;\/span&gt;<\/li>\n<p>&lt;li class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;Nodes at the anterior end are constrained to deform only in the X and Y directions.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/11\/15-11-2024-1731644084-mceclip3.png\" width=\"413\" height=\"240\" \/>&lt;\/span&gt;<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 18.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;To simulate the prone-to-supine deformation, I applied twice the gravity on the model, enabling &ldquo;large deflection&rdquo; for the large expected displacement. The initial substeps were set to 100, with a minimum of 10 and a maximum of 1000.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 18.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;After these settings, the solution failed, producing error messages related to node 75601. I&rsquo;ve tried several adjustments&mdash;reducing the mesh size to 1 mm, increasing &ldquo;number of steps&rdquo; to 20, and enabling &#8220;nonlinear adaptive region&#8221; for all bodies in the model&mdash;but these attempts did not resolve the errors.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 18.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/11\/15-11-2024-1731644111-mceclip4.png\" width=\"420\" height=\"113\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/11\/15-11-2024-1731644111-mceclip5.png\" width=\"455\" height=\"148\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/11\/15-11-2024-1731644116-mceclip6.png\" width=\"413\" height=\"87\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/11\/15-11-2024-1731644130-mceclip7.png\" width=\"475\" height=\"313\" \/>&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;MsoNormal&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: 18.0pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span lang=&#8221;EN-US&#8221;&gt;I want to know the reasons for these persistent errors and want to get some suggestions to improve the simulation. I&rsquo;d be very grateful for any advice. Thank you!&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-393964","topic","type-topic","status-publish","hentry","topic-tag-gravity-1"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_author_ip":["140.114.122.168"],"_btv_view_count":["265"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_subscription":["99"],"_bbp_topic_id":["393964"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27791"],"_bbp_engagement":["99","453796"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_reply_count":["1"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["394534"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["394534"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2024-11-20 13:56:41"]},"test":"s113010505sgapp-nthu-edu-tw"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/393964","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/393964\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=393964"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}