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I have downloaded the absorption coefficient data from the HITRAN on web database, covering a wavelength range from 4.18 to 4.35 &micro;m.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Due to the significant variation and numerous data points of the absorption coefficient across this wavelength range, it is not practical to include every data point in the simulation. To simplify, I summed all the absorption coefficients over the wavelength range. I planned to use a single interval with one summed absorption coefficient in Fluent.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724847933-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724847954-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724847977-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In respect to heat source, Radiation from the IR emitter is incident on the sapphire window. For this, I have data of emitted power w.r.t wavelength from IR emitter manufacturer. So I selected a wavelength range from 4.18 to 4.35 mum and used the summation to calculate Direct irradiation entering sapphire opening area.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am unsure if this approach is correct. Please advise if there is a more accurate method to implement this.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;With this model setup, I could see the following results, although pressure generated is not as much as expected, but I could see the variations in expected direction.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848008-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848045-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848070-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848093-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848113-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Further, during testing, I made slight changes to the wavelength interval, which led to significant changes in the output parameters.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am uncertain about the relationship between the wavelength intervals and the resulting variations. Could you please provide information on this??&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Additionally, I would appreciate any guidance on how to simplify non-gray radiation absorption by CO2 gas or on the discretization of wavelength intervals, absorption coefficients, or power data.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848138-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848154-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848172-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848195-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848215-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/08\/28-08-2024-1724848229-Picture1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let me know if you require further information.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your time.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Note: Density of CO2 set to ideal gas&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-380852","topic","type-topic","status-publish","hentry","topic-tag-fluent-cfd-ansys-1"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Hi everyone,I am working on simulation of Photoacoustic effect in fluent.In my model, I have a closed detection chamber filled entirely with 100% CO2 (please see attached pictures).The absorption of CO2 varies with respect to wavelength. 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