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I can only obtain results when using a very high Young&#8217;s modulus (10,000 MPa). Despite this, the simulation does not converge consistently; sometimes it converges, and other times it does not. (time step= 0.001)<\/p>\n<p>I want to perform the simulation using actual values for the vessel, which means using a lower Young&#8217;s modulus, around <strong>0.05 MPa<\/strong>. However, when I do this, the simulation crashes immediately with the following error message: &#8220;<strong>Element xxx has excessive thickness change<\/strong>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p>I am confident that the fluid part of the simulation (Fluent) works well even without FSI, but the structural part keeps crashing when I use the lower Young&#8217;s modulus. I know that people are simulating blood flow in vessels without any errors, but I am unsure how to fix this issue.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"wp-colorbox-image cboxElement\" href=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/07\/03-07-2024-1720015699-mceclip0.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/07\/03-07-2024-1720015699-mceclip0.png\" width=\"710\" height=\"317\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have seen this question frequently asked by users, but no answer has been provided, so I hope someone can help me resolve this problem. Thanks!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Edit (Rob) &#8211; cleaning up posts.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>I am running a two-way FSI&nbsp; involving blood and vessel, but I encounter this error &#8220;excessive thickness change&#8221;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I can only obtain results when using a very high Young&#8217;s modulus (10,000 MPa). Despite this, the simulation does not converge consistently; sometimes it converges, and other times it does not.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I want to perform the simulation using actual values for the vessel, which means using a lower Young&#8217;s modulus, around&nbsp;<strong>E_Vessel=0.05 MPa<\/strong>. However, when I do this, the simulation crashes immediately with the following error message: &#8220;<strong>(DP 0) Participant Solution encountered a fatal error. Message: Element 248 has&nbsp;excessive thickness change. Please do not save the project if you would like to recover to the last saved state.<\/strong>&#8221;&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I am confident that the fluid part of the simulation (Fluent) works well even without FSI, but the structural part keeps crashing when I use the lower Young&#8217;s modulus. I know that people are simulating blood flow in vessels without any errors, but I am unsure how to fix this issue.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-370321","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I am running a two-way FSI involving blood and vessel, but I encounter excessive thickness change problem. I can only obtain results when using a very high Young&#039;s modulus (10,000 MPa). Despite this, the simulation does not converge consistently; sometimes it converges, and other times it does not. 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