


{"id":36904,"date":"2019-08-01T19:48:36","date_gmt":"2019-08-01T19:48:36","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/convergence-of-steady-state-turbulent-airflow\/"},"modified":"2019-08-01T19:48:36","modified_gmt":"2019-08-01T19:48:36","slug":"convergence-of-steady-state-turbulent-airflow","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/convergence-of-steady-state-turbulent-airflow\/","title":{"rendered":"Convergence of Steady State Turbulent Airflow"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m learning CFD and have a model of a vacuum nozzle. The goal is to get a uniform ability to pickup debris over an 18 inch wide swath. I have a half model since the hose pulls air from the center of the nozzle.&nbsp; This design has two plates with holes in the mouth of the nozzle to break up the flow and avoid a very high velocity at the center of the mouth that occurs without the two plates.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/87c24d62-4b3b-4f54-8f4b-aa9c01408070_2019-08-01-14-16-47-a-mesh---sys---spaceclaim.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\" width=\"309\" height=\"297\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>I have a surface at the center of the large holes to plot the velocity.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/5af23554-0adf-4a87-acc2-aa9c0140e923_2019-08-01-14-54-27-b-fluent-parallel-fluent@rocd2028.corp.carestreamhealth.com--[3d,-dp,-pbns,-rke].jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\" width=\"534\" height=\"360\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>There is a second plane though the center of the small holes.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/fec06ab3-c07f-4d6d-a738-aa9c01410dea_2019-08-01-14-59-40-b-fluent-parallel-fluent@rocd2028.corp.carestreamhealth.com--[3d,-dp,-pbns,-rke].jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\" width=\"534\" height=\"360\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Here is a view of the mesh. I have 12 inflation layers on all the surfaces on the inside of the nozzle, and the floor that the nozzle throat is suspended 5 mm above.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/4468a69c-026c-469b-b5a1-aa9c014267c9_2019-08-01-14-28-05-a---mesh---meshing-[ansys-mechanical-enterprise].jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>The inlet are the sides of the enclosure a good distance from the nozzle. The outlet is a pressure outlet at -1000 Pa.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>My question is on convergence. Here is the convergence plot.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/585f2a7a-f99a-4952-a08b-aa9c01414968_2019-08-01-14-43-58-b-fluent-parallel-fluent@rocd2028.corp.carestreamhealth.com--[3d,-dp,-pbns,-rke].jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>The residual value for continuity is 3e-2 which is my main concern. The residual values for x,y,z velocity are 3e-4 which may be acceptable.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>What should I do to confirm that the above model is properly converged?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>It might be that the skewness element quality is insufficient.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/29c1d053-b705-482f-9a25-aa9c014d5b35_2019-08-01-16-12-36-a---mesh---meshing-[ansys-mechanical-enterprise].jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>On similar model, I was able to get the residual value for continuity below 1e-7. That only had 3 layer of inflation.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/1f42504b-20e6-48ec-ae1e-aa9c01477dd0_2019-08-01-15-51-33-c-fluent-parallel-fluent@rocd2242.corp.carestreamhealth.com--[3d,-dp,-pbns,-rke].jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>On this model, I kept working on element quality until the skewness was &lt; 0.86.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/473aa9e7-10c3-48d3-ac85-aa9c014decd3_2019-08-01-16-01-26-b---mesh---meshing-[ansys-mechanical-enterprise].jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-36904","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_old_topic_id":["9079"],"_bbp_old_topic_author_name_id":["Anonymous"],"_bbp_old_is_topic_anonymous_id":["false"],"_bbp_old_closed_status_id":["publish"],"_bbp_author_ip":[null],"_bbp_old_sticky_status_id":["normal"],"_bbp_likes_count":["0","0"],"_btv_view_count":["896"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_id":["36904"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27792"],"_bbp_engagement":["199","240"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_reply_count":["7"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["91306"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["91306"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2019-08-05 10:28:29"]},"test":"peteroznewman"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/36904","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/36904\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=36904"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}