


{"id":367683,"date":"2024-05-20T19:08:43","date_gmt":"2024-05-20T19:08:43","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/combin14-1-d-springs-damper-and-mass21-lumped-masses-error-in-transient-analysis\/"},"modified":"2024-05-21T13:39:51","modified_gmt":"2024-05-21T13:39:51","slug":"combin14-1-d-springs-damper-and-mass21-lumped-masses-error-in-transient-analysis","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/combin14-1-d-springs-damper-and-mass21-lumped-masses-error-in-transient-analysis\/","title":{"rendered":"ERROR in transient analysis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hello!<\/p>\n<p>I have a geometry model of a structure made of beam elements(BEAM181) with few lumped masses (MASS21) and 1D springs-damper(COMBIN14) acting on different DOF with both linear and nonlinear damping. I ran this geometry first in a modal analysis encountering no errors. Now I am trying with the transient analysis that would be final goal for the research but it gave the following errorin the at LSSOLVE command: node I and J for element [COMBIN14 element number] are not coincident. I tried to fix it by putting the second node of the element at the same location but I still have problems, and I did not find any clear requirement in the Element Reference that the nodes have to be coincident. Do they have to be? Does anyone know how to fix this code?<\/p>\n<p>Here are the MAPDL lines where I define this elements:<\/p>\n<p>lumped mass element -&gt; floaters (3d with rotary inertia + coordinate system &nbsp;parallel to node)<br \/>et,2,mass21,0,0,0<\/p>\n<p>!elements -&gt; damping &amp; stiffness of floaters<br \/>et,3,combin14,,1 !spring-damper ux (mooring stiffness)<br \/>et,5,combin14,,2 !spring-damper uy (mooring stiffness)<br \/>et,4,combin14,,3 !spring-damper uz (mooring stiffness+ heave c33)<br \/>et,6,combin14,,4 !spring-damper rotx (pitch c44)<br \/>et,7,combin14,,5 !spring-damper roty (roll c55)<\/p>\n<p>!connectors<br \/>et,9,combin14,1,1<br \/>et,10,combin14,1,2<br \/>et,11,combin14,1,3<br \/>et,12,combin14,1,4<br \/>et,13,combin14,1,5<br \/>et,14,combin14,1,6<\/p>\n<p>!! define nodes for lumped masses<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !floaters masses COG<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !left down<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,1,-L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),h_fl_up\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,2,-L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_down\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,3,-L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_down+T_fl\/2 !added mass<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !right down<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,4,L_tot+L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),h_fl_up\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,5,L_tot+L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_down\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,6,L_tot+L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_down+T_fl\/2 !added mass<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !centre up<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,7,L_tot\/2,(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3),h_fl_up\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,8,L_tot\/2,(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_down\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,9,L_tot\/2,(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_down+T_fl\/2 !added mass<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !! define nodes for hd spring-damper second nodes<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !left down<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,10,-L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,11,-L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+2*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,12,-L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+3*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,13,-L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+4*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,14,-L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+5*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !right down<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,15,L_tot+L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,16,L_tot+L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+2*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,17,L_tot+L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+3*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,18,L_tot+L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+4*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,19,L_tot+L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+5*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !centre up<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,20,L_tot\/2,(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,21,L_tot\/2,(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+2*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,22,L_tot\/2,(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+3*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,23,L_tot\/2,(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+4*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,24,L_tot\/2,(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3),-h_fl_tot+5*T_fl\/12<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !define nodes for mass connectors<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,25,-L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3)-dist_conn*cos(angle_conn),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3)+dist_conn*sin(angle_conn),h_fl_up\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,26,L_tot+L_obl\/2*cos(pi\/3)+dist_conn*cos(angle_conn),L_obl\/2*sin(pi\/3)+dist_conn*sin(angle_conn),h_fl_up\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,27,L_tot\/2-dist_conn*cos(angle_conn),(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3)+dist_conn*sin(angle_conn),h_fl_up\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,28,L_tot\/2+dist_conn*cos(angle_conn),(L_t-L_obl)*sin(pi\/3)+dist_conn*sin(angle_conn),h_fl_up\/2<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; !second nodes spings mass connector<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,29,-L_obl+L_obl\/2*cos(a),L_obl\/2*sin(a),0<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,30,L_tot+L_obl-L_obl\/2*cos(a),L_obl\/2*sin(2*a),0<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,31,L_tot*cos(a)-L_obl\/2*cos(a),L_obl*sin(2*a)+L_tot*sin(a)+L_obl\/2*sin(a),0<br \/>&nbsp; &nbsp; n,32,L_tot-L_tot*cos(a)+L_obl\/2*cos(a),L_obl*sin(2*a)+L_tot*sin(a)+L_obl\/2*sin(a),0<\/p>\n<p>!lumped masses for floaters<br \/>type,2&nbsp;<br \/>!up<br \/>real,1<br \/>en,1,1<br \/>en,2,4<br \/>en,3,7<br \/>r,1,m_fl_up,m_fl_up,m_fl_up,I_fl_xx_up,I_fl_yy_up,I_fl_zz_up<\/p>\n<p>!down<br \/>real,2<br \/>en,4,2<br \/>en,5,5<br \/>en,6,8<br \/>r,2,m_fl_down,m_fl_down,m_fl_down,I_fl_xx_down,I_fl_yy_down,I_fl_zz_down<\/p>\n<p>!added mass<br \/>real,3<br \/>en,7,3<br \/>en,8,6<br \/>en,9,9<br \/>r,3,m_xx,m_yy,m_zz,I_xx,I_yy,I_zz&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>!spring-damper element for floaters<br \/>type,3 !spring-damper ux (mooring stiffness)<br \/>real,4<br \/>en,10,3,10<br \/>en,11,6,15<br \/>en,12,9,20<br \/>r,4,c_x,0<\/p>\n<p>type,4 !spring-damper uy (mooring stiffness)<br \/>real,5<br \/>en,13,3,11<br \/>en,14,6,16<br \/>en,15,9,21<br \/>r,5,c_y,0<\/p>\n<p>type,5 !spring-damper uz (mooring stiffness+ heave c33)<br \/>real,6<br \/>en,16,3,12<br \/>en,17,6,17<br \/>en,18,9,22<br \/>r,6,c_z+c_33,0<\/p>\n<p>type,6 !spring-damper rotx (pitch c44)<br \/>real,7<br \/>en,19,3,13<br \/>en,20,6,18<br \/>en,21,9,23<br \/>r,7,c_44,0<\/p>\n<p>type,7 !spring-damper roty (roll c55)<br \/>real,8<br \/>en,22,3,14<br \/>en,23,6,19<br \/>en,24,9,24<br \/>r,8,c_55,0<\/p>\n<p>!lumped masses connectors<br \/>type,2<br \/>real,9<br \/>en,25,25<br \/>en,26,26<br \/>en,27,27<br \/>en,28,28<br \/>r,9,m_tot_ccs\/2<\/p>\n<p>!springs connectors<br \/>!ux<br \/>type,9<br \/>real,10<br \/>en,29,25,29<br \/>en,30,26,30<br \/>en,31,27,31<br \/>en,32,28,32<br \/>r,10,k_conn,b1_conn,b2_conn<\/p>\n<p>!uy<br \/>type,10<br \/>real,11<br \/>en,33,25,29<br \/>en,34,26,30<br \/>en,35,27,31<br \/>en,36,28,32<br \/>r,11,k_conn,b1_conn,b2_conn<\/p>\n<p>!uz<br \/>type,11<br \/>real,12<br \/>en,37,25,29<br \/>en,38,26,30<br \/>en,39,27,31<br \/>en,40,28,32<br \/>r,12,k_conn,b1_conn,b2_conn<\/p>\n<p>!rotx<br \/>type,12<br \/>real,13<br \/>en,41,25,29<br \/>en,42,26,30<br \/>en,43,27,31<br \/>en,44,28,32<br \/>r,13,k_conn,b1_conn,b2_conn<\/p>\n<p>!roty<br \/>type,13<br \/>real,14<br \/>en,45,25,29<br \/>en,46,26,30<br \/>en,47,27,31<br \/>en,48,28,32<br \/>r,14,k_conn,b1_conn,b2_conn<\/p>\n<p>!rotz<br \/>type,14<br \/>real,15<br \/>en,49,25,29<br \/>en,50,26,30<br \/>en,51,27,31<br \/>en,52,28,32<br \/>r,15,k_conn,b1_conn,b2_conn<\/p>\n<p>!&#8212;-<br \/>!linking floaters lumped masses to structure<br \/>!&#8212;<br \/>!left down<br \/>ksel,s,kp,,1<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,23<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,11<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,53<br \/>nslk,s<br \/>rbe3,1,all,all<br \/>rbe3,2,all,all<br \/>rbe3,3,all,all<\/p>\n<p>!right down<br \/>ksel,s,kp,,5<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,14<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,6<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,37<br \/>nslk,s<br \/>rbe3,4,all,all<br \/>rbe3,5,all,all<br \/>rbe3,6,all,all<\/p>\n<p>!centre up<br \/>ksel,s,kp,,18,19,1<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,50,51,1<br \/>nslk,s<br \/>rbe3,7,all,all<br \/>rbe3,8,all,all<br \/>rbe3,9,all,all<\/p>\n<p>!&#8212;-<br \/>!linking connectors lumped masses to structure<br \/>!&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>!left down<br \/>ksel,s,kp,,23<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,33<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,53<br \/>nslk,s<br \/>rbe3,25,all,all<\/p>\n<p>!right down<br \/>ksel,s,kp,,14<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,36<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,37<br \/>nslk,s<br \/>rbe3,26,all,all<\/p>\n<p>!centre up left<br \/>ksel,s,kp,,18<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,51,52,1<br \/>nslk,s<br \/>rbe3,27,all,all<\/p>\n<p>!centre up right<br \/>ksel,s,kp,,19<br \/>ksel,a,kp,,50,52,2<br \/>nslk,s<br \/>rbe3,28,all,all<\/p>\n<p>!&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br \/>!constraints springs for floaters hydro properties<br \/>!&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p>!constraints on second node<br \/>nsel,s,node,,10,20,5<br \/>d,all,ux,0<\/p>\n<p>nsel,s,node,,11,21,5<br \/>d,all,uy,0<\/p>\n<p>nsel,s,node,,12,22,5<br 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