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This water must have a temperature difference of more than 60&ordm;C from the inlet to the outlet.&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div>First Option (Single Pipe): Diameter: 70mm; Length: 200cm&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div>Second Option: Diameter (Double Pipe): 50mm; Length: 400cm&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div>I have run simulations in Ansys for different types of spiral increments, from 7mm (visible in the images)&nbsp; to 17mm, but no solution manages to exceed a difference of 30&ordm;C.<\/div>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div>Does anyone have any advice?<\/div>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/04\/20-04-2024-1713657192-mceclip0.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/04\/20-04-2024-1713657241-mceclip1.png\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-363331","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry","topic-tag-fluent-cfd-ansys-1","topic-tag-heat-trasnfer","topic-tag-heater-1"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I&#039;m trying to design a flow through water heater, where an energy source of around 35 W\/cm2 is applied to the outer surface of the pipe. 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