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Other calculation methods hint towards MPB being correct.<\/div>\n<div>How do I combat this issue of energetical disagreement for high permittivity simulations?<\/div>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div>Thank you,<\/div>\n<div>Martin<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-359412","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry","topic-tag-Photoniccrystal-1","topic-tag-bandstructure-1","topic-tag-fdtd"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I have noticed a strong disagreement in bandstructure calculation in comparison to MIT photonic bands. 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