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However, when send a SECH pulse in the input and compare it with the output with OOSCs, the group delay varies a lot. I have take into consideration aliasing and selected an appropriate sampling rate. I have even carried out a parameter sweep of the sapmling rates and looked at the respective group delays obtained. The result does not show a group delay that saturates towards the calculated group delay at high sampling rates. Rather, it has a saw-tooth like behavior and drops by an order of magnitude below the expected value.<\/p>\n<p>I have attached a few slides to demosnstrate the problem. I would appreciate some insights into what might be causing this issue.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"wp-colorbox-image cboxElement\" href=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/29-02-2024-1709226493-Screenshot 2024-02-29 180540.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Slide 1\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/29-02-2024-1709226493-Screenshot 2024-02-29 180540.png\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"wp-colorbox-image cboxElement\" href=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/29-02-2024-1709226532-Screenshot 2024-02-29 180602.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Slide 2\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/29-02-2024-1709226532-Screenshot 2024-02-29 180602.png\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"wp-colorbox-image cboxElement\" href=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/29-02-2024-1709226560-mceclip0.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" 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