


{"id":352949,"date":"2024-02-21T20:52:29","date_gmt":"2024-02-21T20:52:29","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/playing-with-non-linear-analysis\/"},"modified":"2024-02-21T20:52:29","modified_gmt":"2024-02-21T20:52:29","slug":"playing-with-non-linear-analysis","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/playing-with-non-linear-analysis\/","title":{"rendered":"Playing with Non-Linear Analysis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/21-02-2024-1708548099-ForceDrop non convergance7.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p>Hey Guys,&nbsp; I&#8217;ve been following some tutorials and playing with the non-linear analysis settings and I can&#8217;t seem to beat this convergance issue.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a 6&#8243;x2&#8243; beam on top of a 3&#8243;x3&#8243; post.&nbsp; All 14ga material @ 50ksi yeild.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been meshing it as an all quad mesh with a 10mm primary element size and a 2.5mm element size for the corner radii.&nbsp; It&#8217;s meshed off of a surface with a 2mm thickness (.08&#8243; or 14ga).<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve applied a 60,000n force to the top edges.<\/p>\n<p>This is what the force convergance chart looks like<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/21-02-2024-1708548336-ForceDrop non convergance3.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p>I was getting results like this but it was failing so I added in the SEMIIMPLICIT commandline in the APDL.<\/p>\n<p>This is the error I get:<\/p>\n<div id=\"paraDiv\" style=\"display: inline\">\n<p id=\"paragraphData\" class=\"paragraphText\" style=\"font-size: 12px;display: inline\">&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt; SOLUTION CONVERGED AFTER EQUILIBRIUM ITERATION&nbsp; 15<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;*** WARNING ***&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CP =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3420.078&nbsp;&nbsp; TIME= 13:12:27<br \/>&nbsp;For load step 1 substep 94, stabilization moment norm = 31.5757016 is&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;large compared to the internal moment norm 47.3393818.&nbsp; Please check&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;the result carefully.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;*** LOAD STEP&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp; SUBSTEP&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 94&nbsp; COMPLETED.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CUM ITER =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 143<br \/>&nbsp;*** TIME =&nbsp; 0.922000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TIME INC =&nbsp; 0.400000E-02<br \/>&nbsp;*** MAX PLASTIC STRAIN STEP = 0.1816&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CRITERION = 0.1500&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;*** AUTO STEP TIME:&nbsp; NEXT TIME INC = 0.40000E-02&nbsp; UNCHANGED<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; FORCE CONVERGENCE VALUE&nbsp; =&nbsp; 0.2759E+06&nbsp; CRITERION=&nbsp;&nbsp; 266.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MOMENT CONVERGENCE VALUE =&nbsp;&nbsp; 1297.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CRITERION=&nbsp; 0.2306&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DISP CONVERGENCE VALUE&nbsp;&nbsp; =&nbsp; 0.1616E-01&nbsp; CRITERION=&nbsp; 0.1629E-02<br \/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; EQUIL ITER&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 COMPLETED.&nbsp; NEW TRIANG MATRIX.&nbsp; MAX DOF INC=&nbsp; -4.487&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<strong>*** ERROR ***&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CP =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3430.438&nbsp;&nbsp; TIME= 13:12:38<\/strong><br \/><strong>&nbsp;Element 104714 has excessive distortion.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;*** WARNING ***&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CP =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3430.453&nbsp;&nbsp; TIME= 13:12:38<br \/>&nbsp;Contact status (Real ID: 4) changes abruptly from in-contact to&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;far-field.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt; TRANSITIONING TO SEMI-IMPLICIT METHOD<\/p>\n<p>This is element 104714<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/21-02-2024-1708548501-ForceDrop non convergance8.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p>Now this all makes sense but I the question is, is there a way to allow the analysis to go further?&nbsp; I would like to see more buckling and then see the spring-back in a second step where the force is removed.&nbsp; So far the analysis fails before reaching step 2.&nbsp; I tried reducing the loading until it converges (about 55,000n) and I got the analysis to successfully move to step 2 but there is no buckling (Step 2 did fail but I think it&#8217;s because I had it set to auto time stepping).<\/p>\n<p>I have the time stepping set to 100 initial steps with 250 max.&nbsp; I did this because I didn&#8217;t want the analysis going forever.&nbsp; It looks like it&#8217;s failing because of excessive deformation anyway, not because I don&#8217;t have enough time steps but I&#8217;m very open to opinions.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks in advance<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-352949","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_subscription":["304160","88"],"_bbp_author_ip":["23.52.43.81"]," _bbp_last_reply_id":["0"]," _bbp_likes_count":["0"],"_btv_view_count":["1271"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_edit_lock":["1708548907:247247"],"_bbp_topic_id":["352949"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27789"],"_bbp_engagement":["88","304160"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_reply_count":["5"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["353556"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["353556"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2024-02-23 18:59:28"]},"test":"wallybangergmail-com"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/352949","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/352949\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=352949"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}