{"id":345402,"date":"2024-01-18T15:14:50","date_gmt":"2024-01-18T15:14:50","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/joule-thomson-effect\/"},"modified":"2024-01-18T15:14:50","modified_gmt":"2024-01-18T15:14:50","slug":"joule-thomson-effect","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/joule-thomson-effect\/","title":{"rendered":"Joule-Thomson effect"},"content":{"rendered":"

Hi,<\/span><\/p>\n

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I’m currently working on simulating the joule-thomson effect for cryo cooling with real gas CO2. Unfortunately my simulations don’t converge. Here’s a short overview of my setup:<\/span><\/p>\n

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  1. Geometry
    My geometry has a very small diameter compared to its length. Fist there is a long upstream pipe, then the gas is throttled through a small orifice into a bigger expansion part followed by a downstream pipe. <\/span>Here’s a sketch:
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    1. Mesh
      I used the Watertight Geometry Workflow and a poyhedra mesh for the Mesh generating. <\/span>My Mesh Quality is:<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n\n
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      Mesh Size<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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      786574 Cells, 3878491 Faces, 2542058 Nodes<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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      Cell Quality<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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      Orthogonal<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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      Minimum = 0.2, Average = 0.97<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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      Skewness<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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      Maximum = 0.8, Average = 0.023<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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      Aspect Ratio<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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      Maximum = 13.6, Average = 4.2<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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      Surface Quality<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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      Skewness: Maximum = 0.56, Average 0.002<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

        According to the recommendations the mesh quality should be okay.<\/ol>\n
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        1. Physics Setup<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
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          Inlet<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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          Pressure-inlet with 3.5 MPa, 293.15K<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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          Outlet<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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          Pressure-outlet with 0.6 MPa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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          Walls<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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          Thickness of 0.0001m, no heat flux<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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          Material<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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          C02, real-gas-nist model<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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          Model<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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          SST k-omega (2equn), with viscous heating<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

          I limited the temperature to 216.65K so that the gas doesn’t desublimate or respectively because the real-gas data from the NIST databank for CO2 is only defined in the temperature range from 216.592 K on.<\/span><\/p>\n

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          1. Solver
            I’ve tried different solver settings (pressure-based, density-based, solution-steering) for steady-state. I also tried to reduce the under-relaxation factors and the courant number. I tried hybrid initialization or hybrid +FMG initialization. Especially the energy residual remains constant and doesn’t decrease at all. I also tried to start without energy, then enabling energy with first order discretization and moving on to second order. <\/span>But the simulations never converged. My longest simulation was 2000 Iterations. <\/span>I often get the warning that the temperature limit is reached at some cells (mostly between 5 and 200 cells).<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

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            Does someone dealt with the Joule-Thomson effect before or know good settings to reach convergence for a compressible real gas problem? Or am I doing something wrong? Should I simplify my geometry? I would be grateful for any help!<\/span><\/p>\n

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            I look forward to your answers!<\/span><\/p>\n

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            Kind regards,<\/span><\/p>\n

            Mona<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-345402","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_subscription":["49797","15977","199842"],"_bbp_author_ip":["23.52.43.88"]," _bbp_last_reply_id":["0"]," _bbp_likes_count":["0"],"_btv_view_count":["1259"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_topic_id":["345402"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27792"],"_bbp_engagement":["15977","49797","199842"],"_bbp_voice_count":["3"],"_bbp_reply_count":["3"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["348345"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["348345"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2024-02-01 17:10:55"]},"test":"st159000stud-uni-stuttgart-de"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/345402","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/345402\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=345402"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}