


{"id":32470,"date":"2019-01-07T08:45:26","date_gmt":"2019-01-07T08:45:26","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/quarter-symmetry-and-boundary-conditions-for-three-point-bending\/"},"modified":"2019-01-07T08:45:26","modified_gmt":"2019-01-07T08:45:26","slug":"quarter-symmetry-and-boundary-conditions-for-three-point-bending","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/quarter-symmetry-and-boundary-conditions-for-three-point-bending\/","title":{"rendered":"Quarter symmetry and boundary conditions for three point bending"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I followed the discussion on <a href=\"\/thread\/three-point-bending\/\">Three point bending<\/a> to design my model for static structural non-linear three point bending simulation with symmetry. The block size is 160x40x40 mm with a span length of 120 mm.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/910df4e4-d8eb-43ef-b3e2-a81f0023f4cb\/5ebecac0-e3b5-4873-a99f-a9ce009713a4_bending-sketch.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>For symmetry, I reduced the model to 160\/2 mm (in length) and 40\/2 mm (in width). I ran the model but I think I am mistaking somewhere either in symmetry or in boundary conditions. I would like to request guidance on the following queries;<\/p>\n<p>(1). Originally in the complete 3D design (without symmetry) I split the face to make place for the rollers (both top and bottom each with 10 mm of face split length). If I reduce the model length wise i.e. 160\/2mm, I also reduced the face split of the top roller to 5 mm. Is it correct?<\/p>\n<p>(2). When I model symmetry, in the present case is the quarter model, I should apply the boundary condition load (displacement controlled) 1\/4th of the original value. Will the resultant values (for force, deformation, stress, strain etc) will only be for the 1\/4th of the model or for complete model?. I need to compare the experimental results with that of the simulation.<\/p>\n<p>(3). I created the symmetry as following;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/910df4e4-d8eb-43ef-b3e2-a81f0023f4cb\/43ab86c5-b5b1-4336-9de8-a9ce008b3feb_dm-symmetry.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/910df4e4-d8eb-43ef-b3e2-a81f0023f4cb\/6e0f017c-2eb0-4353-9e8b-a9ce008b5ec4_me-symmetry1.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/910df4e4-d8eb-43ef-b3e2-a81f0023f4cb\/e46064e9-8c19-43c9-9baf-a9ce008b6aed_me-symmetry2.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Is the symmetry designed above is correct? One of the post <a href=\"\/thread\/three-point-bending\/?order=all#comment-59b40484-de98-431d-ac69-a96700042f89\">here<\/a> suggested to make symmetry on both faces and edges. What will be the difference if I only make symmetry on the faces only as I have done above?<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>(4). I applied the boundary conditions as following; with displacement A as x=free, y=-0.5mm, z=free. And displacement B as x=free, y=0mm, z=0mm. Could someone please correct me on applying the proper boundary conditions?<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/910df4e4-d8eb-43ef-b3e2-a81f0023f4cb\/b844b016-cb93-4382-aff9-a9ce008c4860_boundary1.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/910df4e4-d8eb-43ef-b3e2-a81f0023f4cb\/b0ddea54-f841-434f-b241-a9ce008c5664_boundary2.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>With in the discussion the remote (loading) displacement was suggested. I am not clear about on how the rotations and components are decided to be set free or set as constant? Also, since I will be modeling the non-linear behavior so I shall keep the remote displacement behavior as deformable?<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/910df4e4-d8eb-43ef-b3e2-a81f0023f4cb\/73e644dc-f551-4911-ae3b-a9ce008f93d7_remote-bc.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-32470","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_old_topic_id":["4642"],"_bbp_old_topic_author_name_id":["Anonymous"],"_bbp_old_is_topic_anonymous_id":["false"],"_bbp_old_closed_status_id":["publish"],"_bbp_author_ip":[null],"_bbp_old_sticky_status_id":["normal"],"_bbp_likes_count":["0","0","0","0","0"],"_btv_view_count":["5063"],"_bbp_subscription":["235427"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_id":["32470"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27791"],"_bbp_engagement":["240","154928","160648"],"_bbp_voice_count":["3"],"_bbp_reply_count":["4"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["74395"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["74395"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2019-01-10 12:03:52"]},"test":"jackhero"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/32470","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/32470\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32470"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}