


{"id":31409,"date":"2018-11-08T18:09:04","date_gmt":"2018-11-08T18:09:04","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/error-when-attaching-a-mass-point-and-a-longitudinal-spring-to-a-surface-at-different-locations\/"},"modified":"2018-11-08T18:09:04","modified_gmt":"2018-11-08T18:09:04","slug":"error-when-attaching-a-mass-point-and-a-longitudinal-spring-to-a-surface-at-different-locations","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/error-when-attaching-a-mass-point-and-a-longitudinal-spring-to-a-surface-at-different-locations\/","title":{"rendered":"Error when attaching a mass point and a longitudinal spring to a surface at different locations!!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/866fef4a-144d-47f3-9309-a81a007bcbca\/a8018991-c25a-4a21-a42c-a9920122445f_water-mass-1.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/866fef4a-144d-47f3-9309-a81a007bcbca\/c49c0b5c-3da0-45d9-b8dc-a99201229f6e_water-mass-2.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\">Hi,<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\">To apply the above water modeling approach in ansys WB (mechanical) I have used remote attached point masses to model (M0) and a 1 m^3 solid box ( I had added it to the model in design modeler) connected to the structure with 2 longitudinal springs as shown in the images below.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\">Note: I have divided M0 into to point masses and attached one point mass to the left wall and the other to the right wall.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\">when I tried to solve the model this warning&nbsp;<strong style=\"box-sizing: border-box;\"><span style=\"box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration-line: underline;\">&#8220;Two or more remote boundary conditions are sharing a common face, edge, or vertex.&nbsp; &nbsp;This behavior can cause solver overconstraint and is not recommended, please check results carefully.&nbsp; You may select the offending object and\/or geometry via RMB on this warning in the Messages window.&#8221;<\/span><\/strong>was appear then the solution stopped with this error&nbsp;<span style=\"box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration-line: underline;\"><strong style=\"box-sizing: border-box;\">&#8220;At least one contact pair or remote load has no elements in it. This may be due to mesh based defeaturing of the geometry.&nbsp; You may select the offending object via RMB on this warning in the Messages window.&#8221;<\/strong><\/span>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\">To handle the error I turned the mesh defeaturing option to &#8220;no&#8221; and tried to solve again, but I get the same warning and the same error. I also edited the pinball region of the mass point from all the face to 0.05 meters and the pinball&nbsp;region of the longitudinal spring to .2 meters instead of all the face which means that each face have a pinball region of the mass point ans a pinball region of the spring and there is no contact between the 2 region.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\">&nbsp; &nbsp;Could anyone give a hand please?!!<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/866fef4a-144d-47f3-9309-a81a007bcbca\/0533f597-db54-4e2e-9fb9-a99201230a7e_housner-water-model-description.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-size: 15px; overflow-x: hidden; font-family: 'Open Sans', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-31409","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_old_topic_id":["3581"],"_bbp_old_topic_author_name_id":["Anonymous"],"_bbp_old_is_topic_anonymous_id":["false"],"_bbp_old_closed_status_id":["publish"],"_bbp_author_ip":[null],"_bbp_old_sticky_status_id":["normal"],"_bbp_likes_count":["0","0","0","0","0"],"_btv_view_count":["1041"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_id":["31409"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27791"],"_bbp_engagement":["240","897","154861"],"_bbp_voice_count":["3"],"_bbp_reply_count":["6"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["70066"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["70066"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2018-11-21 12:39:46"]},"test":"rana-nasser"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/31409","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/31409\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=31409"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}