


{"id":311369,"date":"2023-10-13T08:50:47","date_gmt":"2023-10-13T08:50:47","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/multilayer-pcb-modal-analysis-first-mode-natural-frequency-related\/"},"modified":"2023-10-13T08:50:47","modified_gmt":"2023-10-13T08:50:47","slug":"multilayer-pcb-modal-analysis-first-mode-natural-frequency-related","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/multilayer-pcb-modal-analysis-first-mode-natural-frequency-related\/","title":{"rendered":"Multilayer PCB modal analysis first mode natural frequency related."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hello All<\/p>\n<p>I have a query related to boundary conditions for my vibration simulation test carried out on multilayer PCB.<\/p>\n<p>I have fixed the PCB on vibration fixture using 4 Nos. of M3 screws+ Plain washer+ Spring Washer using aluminum spacer (ID:3.5 mm , OD: 7mm &amp; Length 10mm) between PCB bottom and vibration fixture top and a torque of 58N-cm is applied on the screws. (refer attached figure)<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/13-10-2023-1697184974-TEST-SETUP.PNG\" alt=\"\" width=\"548\" height=\"166\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/13-10-2023-1697185014-PCB_Details.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"784\" height=\"540\"><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/13-10-2023-1697185310-PCB_TEST_SETUP.PNG\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p>In actual vibration test first mode natural frequency observed is 136Hz.<\/p>\n<p>When i am simulating the same in Ansys workbench my first mode natural frequency is 156 Hz.<\/p>\n<p>Equivalent mechanical properties of PCB are:<\/p>\n<p>E =28.45 GPa &amp; Poisson&#8217;s ratio : 0.13 density : 2420 kg\/m^3<\/p>\n<p>PCB dimensions are : 200 x 150 x 2.404 mm<\/p>\n<p>Base PCB mass : 175 gm<\/p>\n<p>For my simulation , i have assumed isotropic material for PCB with above properties and hole edges (neglecting the aluminium spacers) are taken as fixed boundary condtion in place of washer area , frequency obtained is 152 Hz.<\/p>\n<p>I tried with PCB trace mapping technique also. In that case , I used Ansys FR4 &amp; copper properties for the PCB and again fixed boundary condition is taken as hole edges , again natrual frequency observed is&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I have not done pre-stress modal analysis and no damping assumed.<\/p>\n<p>I think there is something wrong in my boundary condition that the reason my simulation results are not matching with actual vibration test.<\/p>\n<p>Should i consider aluminium spacer also in simulation?<\/p>\n<p>please let me know where i am doing wrong.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks in advance.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-311369","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_subscription":["23863","58821"],"_bbp_author_ip":["23.218.248.146"]," _bbp_last_reply_id":["0"]," _bbp_likes_count":["0"],"_btv_view_count":["504"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_id":["311369"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27791"],"_bbp_engagement":["23863","58821"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_reply_count":["5"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["313889"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["313889"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2023-10-30 08:17:40"]},"test":"umesh_maheshwarisac-isro-gov-in"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/311369","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/311369\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=311369"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}