


{"id":301156,"date":"2023-08-12T14:16:26","date_gmt":"2023-08-12T14:16:26","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/?post_type=topic&#038;p=301156"},"modified":"2023-08-12T15:20:45","modified_gmt":"2023-08-12T15:20:45","slug":"deviation-between-ansys-bolt-fea-results-and-analytical-solutions","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/deviation-between-ansys-bolt-fea-results-and-analytical-solutions\/","title":{"rendered":"Deviation between Ansys Bolt FEA Results and Analytical Solutions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">Hi all, I&#8217;m currently assisting my colleague to solve a simple problem where I-beam and a plate are joined by 16 bolts (bolts at the 1st row from the bottom have a different diameter). The load and boundary condition can be seen below. The standard used for this case is EN 1993-1-8.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"_2-UiOdhyj4wHBv7Rc2FeDr c1cmiB1jfdq4sxidlPDAx\">\n<div class=\"_3Oa0THmZ3f5iZXAQ0hBJ0k _2LjgQiHLCZ9LDbCQx5KaOi \"><a class=\"wp-colorbox-image cboxElement\" href=\"https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/vzrg20whiohb1.png?width=762&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=d059562173193f7934bc761987160a0dfe1cd624\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"_2_tDEnGMLxpM6uOa2kaDB3 ImageBox-image media-element _1XWObl-3b9tPy64oaG6fax\" style=\"display: block;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto\" src=\"https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/vzrg20whiohb1.png?width=762&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=d059562173193f7934bc761987160a0dfe1cd624\" alt=\"r\/ANSYS - Bolt Force Reaction (FEA vs Analytical Result)\"><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"FJNSiirwoPtG58aeGw2Jx\" style=\"text-align: center\"><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt\">Problem Definition<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"_2-UiOdhyj4wHBv7Rc2FeDr c1cmiB1jfdq4sxidlPDAx\">\n<div class=\"_3Oa0THmZ3f5iZXAQ0hBJ0k _2LjgQiHLCZ9LDbCQx5KaOi \"><a class=\"wp-colorbox-image cboxElement\" href=\"https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/v3u765nyhohb1.png?width=1042&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=140da0f81499214c7b0551331240af189b259999\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"_2_tDEnGMLxpM6uOa2kaDB3 ImageBox-image media-element _1XWObl-3b9tPy64oaG6fax\" style=\"display: block;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto\" src=\"https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/v3u765nyhohb1.png?width=1042&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=140da0f81499214c7b0551331240af189b259999\" alt=\"r\/ANSYS - Bolt Force Reaction (FEA vs Analytical Result)\"><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"FJNSiirwoPtG58aeGw2Jx\" style=\"text-align: center\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt\"><em>Bolt Configuration<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">I modeled the bolts using beam elements and fixed joints applied to the beam vertex and plate bolt head-imprinted faces (MPC, Deformable Behavior).<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">The goal is to evaluate the&nbsp;<strong class=\"_12FoOEddL7j_RgMQN0SNeU\">Total Force Reaction<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong class=\"_12FoOEddL7j_RgMQN0SNeU\">for each bolt<\/strong>&nbsp;and compare it to the analytical solution using methods from&nbsp;<em class=\"_7s4syPYtk5hfUIjySXcRE\"><strong class=\"_12FoOEddL7j_RgMQN0SNeU\">Shigley&#8217;s Mechanical Engineering Design<\/strong><\/em>&nbsp;book. However, the results look like this<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"_2-UiOdhyj4wHBv7Rc2FeDr c1cmiB1jfdq4sxidlPDAx\">\n<div class=\"_3Oa0THmZ3f5iZXAQ0hBJ0k _2LjgQiHLCZ9LDbCQx5KaOi \"><a class=\"wp-colorbox-image cboxElement\" href=\"https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/ktm13fx3gohb1.png?width=728&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=d06cb89a9b0b7549816d30b322243ec0337cd1c4\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"_2_tDEnGMLxpM6uOa2kaDB3 ImageBox-image media-element _1XWObl-3b9tPy64oaG6fax\" style=\"display: block;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto\" src=\"https:\/\/preview.redd.it\/ktm13fx3gohb1.png?width=728&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=d06cb89a9b0b7549816d30b322243ec0337cd1c4\" alt=\"r\/ANSYS - Bolt Force Reaction (FEA vs Analytical Result)\"><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"FJNSiirwoPtG58aeGw2Jx\" style=\"text-align: center\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt\"><em>Results<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">As we can see, most of the bolts&#8217; reaction forces calculated by Ansys have deviation, with a maximum deviation of 19% compared to the analytical calculation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">What causes these deviations? My colleague is confident with his analytical calculation (I already checked it) and he doesn&#8217;t have experimental data. Does analytical calculation assume the objects to have rigid behaviors? How can I convince my colleague that the FEA model is already modeled correctly? Thanks!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-301156","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry","topic-tag-bolt","topic-tag-bolt-modelling-1","topic-tag-mechanical"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_author_ip":["23.206.193.154"],"_bbp_subscription":["23541","240","34322"],"_btv_view_count":["1388"],"_edit_lock":["1691853541:227387"],"_bbp_likes_count":["1"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_id":["301156"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27791"],"_bbp_engagement":["240","23541","34322"],"_bbp_voice_count":["3"],"_bbp_reply_count":["6"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["301181"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["301181"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2023-08-12 20:25:22"]},"test":"lutfiantoraihangmail-com"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/301156","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/301156\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=301156"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}