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Bone is a couple of orders of magnitude stiffer than disk material, so one model represents the bones as rigid bodies while the disks are flexible bodies.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Some protrusions from the bones slide on each other, so he has used frictional contact between them.&nbsp; Some diseases of the spine fuse those bones together.&nbsp; To simulate that, the frictional contact is changed to bonded contact.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Deepak asks why there would be any deformation in the disk if the rigid bones are connected with bonded contact. Rather than work on his very large model, I have a very small model.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>It has two rigid bodies with a flexible block between them. The block between them is bonded to each rigid end body. One rigid block is fixed and the other has a force applied. There is also a frictional contact between the rigid bodies.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/98f2275e-7e7c-4770-b873-a8e60018f8cb_frictional.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>If the frictional contact is changed to bonded contact, this is the result.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/3e825b35-df61-45f5-9693-a81101684b62\/5202fd69-9efb-43d2-983e-a8e600192927_bonded.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>The flexible body has practically zero deformation.&nbsp; Is this what you are seeing?<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>If not and the deformation with bonded contact is similar in magnitude to the frictional contact case above, then that is likely due to some conflict in the model, an over-constraint that makes it impossible for the solver to satisfy all the constraints at the same time and so some constraints are ignored in order for the solver to continue.&nbsp; When this happens, there are always WARNINGS in the output file such as this:<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;*WARNING*: Some rigid target elements (e.g.810) in real constant set 5&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;overlap with other MPC\/Lagrange based elements (e.g.1123) in real&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp;constant set 10 which can cause overconstraint.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>The problem with a complex model is that there are likely to be many warnings, but most of them do not represent a true conflict. For example you can have separate contacts on adjacent faces of a block that gets bonded into a corner. The nodes on the edge of the block belong to two contacts at the same time, so a warning may be issued, but there is not an actual overconstraint.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>The ANSYS 19.0 archive for the model above is attached below.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-29326","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Deepak Maurya has been working on a simulation of spinal bones and the disks separating them. Bone is a couple of orders of magnitude stiffer than disk material, so one model represents the bones as rigid bodies while the disks are flexible bodies. 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